RE: I feel good
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  • Subject: RE: I feel good
  • From: D* <g*@sbcglobal.net>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:11:00 -0800 (PST)
Been a few days now, is your friend feeling any better?
 
Donna

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI
<cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> wrote:




Thanks...she can use it...still in the hospital under a lot of pain
meds.

Cyndi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Pam Evans
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:45 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] I feel good

Cyndi - so sorry to hear about your friend.  Will put her on my list w/
all
who need healing.

On 1/25/10, BONNIE_HOLMES <bonnie_holmes@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Could it be that you have strips of hardpan underneath? My soil
greatly
> varies. In some spots, it is pretty good, others a light clay and ok,
> and in a few spots hard clay. When I prepared beds in the hard clay, I
> would dig down as deep as the shovel and bury kitchen mulch. In a
year,
> the soil would be pretty good. Where are you?
>
>
> ETN Zone 7
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI Johnson" <
> cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:01:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] I feel good
>
> Hmmm all good points. I didn't rototill last year at all and I don't
> remember doing much the year before that either. I wish I had seen
more
> of a gradation between the mulch level and the soil, it just didn't
look
> like much of the mulch was migrating downward. Things just do not rot
> here without mega-gallons of water. If I put cardboard on the ground
> right now with grass clippings on top, and we got our normal expected
> rainfall, next summer I would see a layer of mostly withered grass
with
> perfectly usable cardboard underneath it.
> On the plus side since all that veg garden mulch is sopping wet now,
it
> may actually start to break down. Woohoo!
> Maybe I'll just bury the irrigation farther down this summer. That
would
> get water down past the mulch into the root zone and avoid stirring up
> weed seeds. Although the wind we get during the year does a really
good
> job of spreading stuff around so it's not like there will be any
> shortage of weeds anyway.
> Oh well every place has its challenges.
>
> Cyndi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of BONNIE_HOLMES
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:30 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] I feel good
>
> Not only do you do that but you also expose lots of buried weed seed
to
> light which makes weeding much more difficult. The last class I
attended
> recommended that you cut off the plants at the point where no growth
can
> occur and allow the remaining with roots become part of the soil. I
use
> newspaper, straw and have even used cardboard. It is great to keep
down
> winter opportunist weed when you have large pieces of it. By spring it
> has disintegrated.
>
>
> ETN Zone 7
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tricia" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:15:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] I feel good
>
> Cyndi,
> I am not big on rototilling because of a talk I heard once by a soil
> conservationist. He talked about how if you rototill or plow to the
same
>
> depth all the time you make a hard pan that the moisture and roots can
> not
> penetrate. I am a big mulcher with newspapers and straw or grass
> clippings
> is my favorite. The worms come and work the soil for you.
> Just my 2 cents!
> Tricia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI"
> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] I feel good
>
>
> > The friend I go hiking with was in a car accident Saturday after she
> hit
> > some black ice on a canyon road. Fractured a vertebrae, not good. So
> my
> > weekend wasn't as happy as it could have been, but I did enjoy
> grubbing
> > in the dirt both days. It was a great weekend weatherwise. No wind
> plus
> > sunshine, t-shirt weather! I worked outside clearing what was left
of
> > old tomato and basil plants in the vegetable garden and cutting back
> > rabbitbrush in the dry garden. Husband dug up some old
non-productive
> > grapevines, they were some kind of wine grape, and we bought new
> > Thompson Seedless and Flame to replace them. I looked for bare-root
> > fruit trees but the local selection was pathetic. We've been
checking
> > since New Year's but I guess the home centers just don't get enough
> > demand for them. I did buy a Tilton apricot and I'll call the only
> real
> > nursery in town today to see if they have anything. Otherwise I'll
> have
> > to mail-order a pomegranate, a couple peach trees, and maybe a pear.
> > I pruned my dwarf nectarine and some rosebushes too, but being as I
> was
> > too lazy to go get my gloves I am all scabbed up, you'd think I'd
> learn.
> >
> > While digging in the veg garden I was noticing the soil. I have been
> > dumping spoiled hay and sheep manure in there for years. We received
> > about 4" of rain over the last few days. I dug down about 18" and
the
> > top few inches, all mulch, is sopping wet. The rest of the soil is
> dry.
> > Not summer dry but not real moist either. In the "unimproved" areas
> like
> > where I planted the fruit tree, the water penetrated way down,
farther
>
> > than I could dig. Hmmm, I'm thinking more rototilling is in my
future.
>
> >
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
On
> > Behalf Of Kitty
> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:59 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: [CHAT] I feel good
> >
> > Fifty two lovely degrees today and the sun even came out for a few
> > minutes.
> > I washed the car, checked on some plants, generally puttered around
> > outside
> > in just a sweatshirt. Feels good to get outside.
> > High tomorrow will be 33
> >
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Zone 5
> >
> >
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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