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RE: more crazy weather
  • Subject: RE: more crazy weather
  • From: "Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:07:58 -0800

We are certainly not getting any water here in my bit of the desert. So
you're thinking, desert, duh, of course there's no water - but normally we
would have had a few inches by now and so far there's nothing. Temperatures
have been a bit warmer than usual, although not bizarrely so, and we don't
seem to have had as much wind either. All the moisture is getting stopped
way up north due to the La Nina effect.

And Tricia...please take this with the utmost respect... there are seven
BILLION people on this earth now, all of them eating, drinking, breathing
and excreting - to believe we can have no impact is wishful thinking. Have
you never seen smog? It cannot be such a leap from looking at the filthy air
over Los Angeles, Houston, or Beijing to realize there are engines all over
the world, and that stuff goes somewhere. I am sure the people who shot
passenger pigeons believed that their actions could not affect such a huge
part of God's creation - after all, there were billions of them. The
fishermen who caught tons of Atlantic cod could not believe such bounty
would run out. Nonetheless the pigeons are extinct and the cod fishery is
gone. Just in my childhood, the citrus orchards of the San Fernando Valley
and the Inland Empire were replaced by strip malls and housing tracts. The
desert where I live now is being scraped up and more houses built (okay, not
just at the moment, but it will resume). People need to live somewhere and I
benefit from technology too - but I see the impact locally. I cannot talk
myself into believing there is no impact globally. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of James Singer
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] more crazy weather

I think "water," or the lack of it, is the big concern here in the West. We
don't seem to be getting as much rain and/or snow as usual. Many of the ski
resorts, like that of Auralie's son, have yet to open. When I say not as
rain as usual, I don't mean clear skies. Still gets cloudy and foggy, still
drizzles, but no substantial precip.

"I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it." -- Ray Bradbury

On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:47 AM, BONNIE_HOLMES wrote:

> It has been crazy here, too. But, mostly between 3-6 degrees above
> normal. It warms, bringing up daffodils and pushing out buds, then,
> cools below freezing. I'm thinking that the plants that make it will be
> the ones that can take this up and down weather and the longer & warmer
> summers. Over 30 years of gardening in the same place shows me that
> there is true warming. So far, it has been over 5 years of warmer winter
> weather.
> B
> ETN Zone 7
> Remember the River Raisin, the Alamo, the Maine, Pearl Harbor, 911.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aplfgcnys@aol.com
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:48:03 AM
> Subject: [CHAT] more crazy weather
> What a see-saw season. After our October snow storm, it has been
> mostly pretty mild and very wet - often not even freezing at night. A
> couple of times it has dropped down to the lower 20s for a couple of
> days, but then warmed back up. Last week we observed that our
> pond had not frozen,and we always expected to boys to have
> skating parties there during the holidays. On Wednesday the
> ground was not even frozen, but I reluctantly finished cutting back
> the perennials, some of which were still green. Yesterday morning
> the temperature was 19 degrees, and this morning it was 7 degrees.
> We had such cold weather last year, but things came through very
> well because there was a heavy snow cover from early December
> right through until March. This year the ground is quite open. Not
> a flake of snow since October. I'm really worried about how my
> plants will survive. Snow can complicate life at times but it does
> have a purpose other than just to be skiied on. My son in Colorado
> is complaining that though Denver has snow, there was none at
> Winter Park where they have bought a ski condo. Oh well. Poor
> baby.
> Auralie
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