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Re: Hosta seedlings

As Gene said, hosta seedlings are usually green, but you also asked how long
it would take to see leaf patterning.  I assume you're interested in texture
as well as color and variegation.  I have started hostas from collected seed
several times.  The batch of about 100 that I set out in May have a variety
of leaf shapes from round to eliptical.  All are roughly the same shade of
green.  so I think leaf shape is an early trait.  But color I believe comes
in the next year or so; texture, too.  I have some hostas that I started
from seed that developed the matte blue coloring and even some corrugation
over time.  My first one has a dark forest green coloring on smooth leaves.
Each seedling can offer you some surprises.  If it it's variegation you're
hoping for, it's my understanding that it's not likely to hapen, though I
know one MG here who says that the seed she collects from one of her hostas
regularly yields 60% variegated seedlings.


----- Original Message -----
From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hosta seedlings

> I figured that most would be plain green,  but if by chance I got
> lucky, I'd want to recognize what I had before pulling it up! There are
> some plants that don't reveal their "mature" characteristics as
> seedlings, but didn't know if that includes hosta.
> Cathy
> On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 06:26 AM, Gene Bush wrote:
> > Hello Cathy,
> >     I certainly am not an expert in hosta, but I have had them in the
> > garden
> > for years now. When I forget and let them form seed pods and then
> > forget to
> > clip the pods, I end up with seedlings all over the place. Most hosta
> > are
> > pretty prolific in the seed department. All I have ever seen from all
> > the
> > fancy foliages is green seedlings. Believe it takes a breeding
> > program, or
> > lots of luck ... probably both, to get babies worth bragging
> > about..... In
> > any case, mine get treated as weeds.
> >    Gene E. Bush
> > Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
> > www.munchkinnursery.com
> > genebush@munchkinnursery.com
> > Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> Am not a hosta breeder or anything, but I have noticed a number of
> >> seedling hostas in my front beds this year. One of the parents has got
> >> to be H. "Tokudama Flavocircinalis", or H. "Frances Williams", since
> >> they are in the bed where the seedlings are located. The other parent
> >> could be anything. My question is, how soon can you tell, from a
> >> seedling, what the adult leaf patterning will look like? (If I have
> >> something potentially special, I want to know about it before I weed!)
> > Gene E. Bush
> >> Any hosta experts out there?
> >> Cathy
> >
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