Re: Skunks/raccoons now turtles

Add mosquitoes to the "what were You thinking" list.
We don't have Japanese beetles in Texas thank God.
I agree w/ Jesse - what goes around comes around. And she is a master at
making simple yet meaniful examples of same. If you met her kids you
would marvel at their presence of mind for their years.

Remarkable family.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:01:35 -0500

>Jesse,
>I loved the water drop example!  Excellent way to convey your meaning.
>However, I would prefer to protect life because it is valuable in all its
>forms (well, almost all, Japanese  Beetles ARE an exception!) rather than
>out of fear that my bad actions will come back to haunt me.
>
>Kitty
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>
>
>> I know Kitty and  Lynda...I have witnessed it too.  I actually followed a
>> guy till he stopped his car and got out and chewed his butt off.  I
>thought
>> I was going to be arrested but I was so mad, and in tears...and sickened
>> that somebody could be that cold hearted.  This stupid guy actually
>stopped
>> and backed over it again!  And I knew a woman...personally...who loved to
>> run over turtles...she said she liked the sound they made when she ran
>over
>> them.  I told her that in her next life...I hope she was a turtle and
>> somebody like her finds her on the road.  So...anyway...that's why I save
>> turtles and help them across the road...for fear of STUPID people who like
>> to run over them just for the crunch.   What goes around...comes around.
>I
>> explained to my children that what they do comes back, over and over again
>> so it better be NICE.  For small children that is hard to understand...so
>I
>> took a big bowl of water that was very still and had them watch me drop a
>> little drop of water in it.  The ripples went out to the edge and came
>right
>> back to the center.  I told them that negative and positve energy does the
>> very same thing...so make your thoughts and actions as positive as you
>can.
>> They got the picture.  They save turtles too.
>>
>> Jesse Rene' Bell
>> Claremore, OK
>> Zone 6
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Lynda Young" <lyoung@grindertaber.com>
>> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:17:10 -0500
>> >
>> >I am just sickened.  I cannot imagine such a mindset.  I know such
>> >behavior occurs but, fortunately, have never witnessed it.  I would
>> >probably be so enraged that I'd get myself into serious trouble.  Ack,
>> >you have to wonder what makes some people tick.
>> >
>> >Lynda
>> >Zone 7 - West TN
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> >Behalf Of Kitty Morrissy
>> >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:04 PM
>> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >
>> >
>> >Jesse,
>> >I know sometimes hitting animals, etc. can't be avoided, but I have
>> >seen people actually aim for them. Locally we have flocks of ducks and
>> >Canada geese that parade their little families across roads.  Most
>> >people who travel these areas are aware and stop to wait for them to
>> >all get across, but every year there's a story about someone who
>> >deliberately plows right through the family.  The last one I knew of
>> >was a letter to the editor written by someone who saw it and tried to
>> >save some of the poor birds.  Heartbreaking.  I believe the geese are
>> >federally protected, but the ducks are not.  Years ago I watched as the
>> >driver in front of me on US 30 actually swerved to the inside shoulder
>> >so he could hit a Labrador retriever.  I took the dog to a vet, but he
>> >didn't make it.
>> >
>> >Kitty
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Jesse Bell <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:09 pm
>> >Subject: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >
>> > > OOOPS... I hit a key (don't know which one) and my message was
>> > > gone...don't
>> > > know if I sent it or not?  Anyway...I said I need one of those
>> > > bumper
>> > > stickers that says "BRAKES FOR TURTLES" cause I stop and help them
>> > > cross the
>> > > road too.  I always worry that somebody will run over them and
>> > > they are so
>> > > slow.
>> > >
>> > > We're all just trying to survive in this world...so I help when I
>> > > can,
>> > > that's all.  I'm a firm believer that what you put out...comes
>> > > back to you.
>> > > Kindness matters.
>> > >
>> > > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> > > Claremore, OK
>> > > Zone 6
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Kitty Morrissy <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> > > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> > > >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:01:38 -0500
>> > > >
>> > > >Jesse,
>> > > >the marshmallow story is a good one.  I also know how they are about
>> > > >getting what they want.  They've totaled several of my
>> > > birdfeeders to
>> > > >the point of my giving up. (except for the one expensive varmint
>> > > proof>feeder)  One I had to remove because I couldn't get any
>> > > sleep at night
>> > > >as it was outside my bedroom window.  Ah, well, we all need to
>> > > find a
>> > > >way to share this earth of ours.
>> > > >
>> > > >Kitty
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >From: Jesse Bell <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> > > >Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:27 am
>> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> > > >
>> > > > > No, they won't starve.  They are survivors.  No, they are not real
>> >
>> > > > > picky about their diet.  And yes, if you feed them be prepared to
>> > > > > have them hang
>> > > > > around.  We had two when I was a child...and they hung out in the
>> > > > > barn.
>> > > > > They burrowed into the hay to sleep.  But they are very, very
>> > > > > smart.  They
>> > > > > remember where you store food.  Those two coons would work
>> > > > > together to get
>> > > > > in our house.  One would jump on the screen door and start
>> > > > > swinging back and
>> > > > > forth really hard until it budged open, the other one would run
>> > > > > inside.  The
>> > > > > first one jumped off the screen and the other coon pushed the door
>> > > > > open for
>> > > > > him.  They found the marshmallows my mother had in the bottom
>> > > > > drawer of the
>> > > > > kitchen and climbed up on the sink and started "washing" them in
>> > > > > the sink
>> > > > > water.   Well, the marshmallows dissolved all over them and they
>> > > > > made a mess
>> > > > > all over themselves trying to get it off.  What a mess to clean
>> > > > > up!!  They
>> > > > > have a BIG sweet tooth.  If you really wanna see something funny,
>> > > > > take your
>> > > > > empty peanut butter jar outside (don't clean out what's left in
>> > > > > it) and lay
>> > > > > it on the ground.  They'll stick their head in there to lick it
>> > > > > off and get
>> > > > > it stuck on their head....wandering around chattering till another
>> > > > > coon
>> > > > > pulls it off.  I find them funny....and very amusing to watch.
>> > > > > But after
>> > > > > they are a certain age...they stay OUTSIDE because they are very,
>> > > > > very
>> > > > > destructive!!!  Our coon grew up with the dogs and when we let her
>> > > > > out...she
>> > > > > runs over to hug on my Jack Russell...they grew up as babies
>> > > > > together.  I
>> > > > > have pictures of them rolling on the floor fighting over a toy.
>> > > > > They don't
>> > > > > fight fair either....my little dog was sweet to her..and she
>> > > > > played dirty to
>> > > > > get her way.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> > > > > Claremore, OK
>> > > > > Zone 6
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> > > > > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > > > >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> > > > > >Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:02:14 -0500
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >So, Jessee,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >...Raccoons are scavengers and junk-food junkies....
>> > > > > >You're saying they have no particular diet they should stick to?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ... As a licensed rehaber I can
>> > > > > > > tell you that a momma and her babies will find food..even if
>> > > > > it's
>> > > > > >bugs....
>> > > > > >You're saying they won't starve if I refuse to feed them?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >...So, I will tell you that if you feed them,
>> > > > > > > be prepared to have them hang around for awhile....
>> > > > > >You're saying that it's ok to feed them, but I'll suffer the
>> > > > > consequences?>
>> > > > > >Is feeding them the wrong or right thing to do?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Kitty
>> > > > > >
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