Re: Skunks/raccoons now turtles

Agreed my dear!!

:-D


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:41:21 -0500

>Thanks Pam!  I know I'm their mom...and supposed to be proud of them...I 
>think they're pretty great kids too.
>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>Claremore, OK
>Zone 6
>
>
>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:18:50 -0500
>>
>>Add mosquitoes to the "what were You thinking" list.
>>We don't have Japanese beetles in Texas thank God.
>>I agree w/ Jesse - what goes around comes around. And she is a master at
>>making simple yet meaniful examples of same. If you met her kids you
>>would marvel at their presence of mind for their years.
>>
>>Remarkable family.
>>
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:01:35 -0500
>>
>> >Jesse,
>> >I loved the water drop example!  Excellent way to convey your meaning.
>> >However, I would prefer to protect life because it is valuable in all its
>> >forms (well, almost all, Japanese  Beetles ARE an exception!) rather than
>> >out of fear that my bad actions will come back to haunt me.
>> >
>> >Kitty
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:24 PM
>> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >
>> >
>> >> I know Kitty and  Lynda...I have witnessed it too.  I actually followed 
>>a
>> >> guy till he stopped his car and got out and chewed his butt off.  I
>> >thought
>> >> I was going to be arrested but I was so mad, and in tears...and 
>>sickened
>> >> that somebody could be that cold hearted.  This stupid guy actually
>> >stopped
>> >> and backed over it again!  And I knew a woman...personally...who loved 
>>to
>> >> run over turtles...she said she liked the sound they made when she ran
>> >over
>> >> them.  I told her that in her next life...I hope she was a turtle and
>> >> somebody like her finds her on the road.  So...anyway...that's why I 
>>save
>> >> turtles and help them across the road...for fear of STUPID people who 
>>like
>> >> to run over them just for the crunch.   What goes around...comes 
>>around.
>> >I
>> >> explained to my children that what they do comes back, over and over 
>>again
>> >> so it better be NICE.  For small children that is hard to 
>>understand...so
>> >I
>> >> took a big bowl of water that was very still and had them watch me drop 
>>a
>> >> little drop of water in it.  The ripples went out to the edge and came
>> >right
>> >> back to the center.  I told them that negative and positve energy does 
>>the
>> >> very same thing...so make your thoughts and actions as positive as you
>> >can.
>> >> They got the picture.  They save turtles too.
>> >>
>> >> Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> Claremore, OK
>> >> Zone 6
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Lynda Young" <lyoung@grindertaber.com>
>> >> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >> >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:17:10 -0500
>> >> >
>> >> >I am just sickened.  I cannot imagine such a mindset.  I know such
>> >> >behavior occurs but, fortunately, have never witnessed it.  I would
>> >> >probably be so enraged that I'd get myself into serious trouble.  Ack,
>> >> >you have to wonder what makes some people tick.
>> >> >
>> >> >Lynda
>> >> >Zone 7 - West TN
>> >> >
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> >> >Behalf Of Kitty Morrissy
>> >> >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:04 PM
>> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Jesse,
>> >> >I know sometimes hitting animals, etc. can't be avoided, but I have
>> >> >seen people actually aim for them. Locally we have flocks of ducks and
>> >> >Canada geese that parade their little families across roads.  Most
>> >> >people who travel these areas are aware and stop to wait for them to
>> >> >all get across, but every year there's a story about someone who
>> >> >deliberately plows right through the family.  The last one I knew of
>> >> >was a letter to the editor written by someone who saw it and tried to
>> >> >save some of the poor birds.  Heartbreaking.  I believe the geese are
>> >> >federally protected, but the ducks are not.  Years ago I watched as 
>>the
>> >> >driver in front of me on US 30 actually swerved to the inside shoulder
>> >> >so he could hit a Labrador retriever.  I took the dog to a vet, but he
>> >> >didn't make it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Kitty
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: Jesse Bell <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >> >Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:09 pm
>> >> >Subject: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons now turtles
>> >> >
>> >> > > OOOPS... I hit a key (don't know which one) and my message was
>> >> > > gone...don't
>> >> > > know if I sent it or not?  Anyway...I said I need one of those
>> >> > > bumper
>> >> > > stickers that says "BRAKES FOR TURTLES" cause I stop and help them
>> >> > > cross the
>> >> > > road too.  I always worry that somebody will run over them and
>> >> > > they are so
>> >> > > slow.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > We're all just trying to survive in this world...so I help when I
>> >> > > can,
>> >> > > that's all.  I'm a firm believer that what you put out...comes
>> >> > > back to you.
>> >> > > Kindness matters.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> > > Claremore, OK
>> >> > > Zone 6
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >From: Kitty Morrissy <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> >> > > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > > >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> >> > > >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:01:38 -0500
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Jesse,
>> >> > > >the marshmallow story is a good one.  I also know how they are 
>>about
>> >> > > >getting what they want.  They've totaled several of my
>> >> > > birdfeeders to
>> >> > > >the point of my giving up. (except for the one expensive varmint
>> >> > > proof>feeder)  One I had to remove because I couldn't get any
>> >> > > sleep at night
>> >> > > >as it was outside my bedroom window.  Ah, well, we all need to
>> >> > > find a
>> >> > > >way to share this earth of ours.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Kitty
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > >From: Jesse Bell <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >> > > >Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:27 am
>> >> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > No, they won't starve.  They are survivors.  No, they are not 
>>real
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > picky about their diet.  And yes, if you feed them be prepared 
>>to
>> >> > > > > have them hang
>> >> > > > > around.  We had two when I was a child...and they hung out in 
>>the
>> >> > > > > barn.
>> >> > > > > They burrowed into the hay to sleep.  But they are very, very
>> >> > > > > smart.  They
>> >> > > > > remember where you store food.  Those two coons would work
>> >> > > > > together to get
>> >> > > > > in our house.  One would jump on the screen door and start
>> >> > > > > swinging back and
>> >> > > > > forth really hard until it budged open, the other one would run
>> >> > > > > inside.  The
>> >> > > > > first one jumped off the screen and the other coon pushed the 
>>door
>> >> > > > > open for
>> >> > > > > him.  They found the marshmallows my mother had in the bottom
>> >> > > > > drawer of the
>> >> > > > > kitchen and climbed up on the sink and started "washing" them 
>>in
>> >> > > > > the sink
>> >> > > > > water.   Well, the marshmallows dissolved all over them and 
>>they
>> >> > > > > made a mess
>> >> > > > > all over themselves trying to get it off.  What a mess to clean
>> >> > > > > up!!  They
>> >> > > > > have a BIG sweet tooth.  If you really wanna see something 
>>funny,
>> >> > > > > take your
>> >> > > > > empty peanut butter jar outside (don't clean out what's left in
>> >> > > > > it) and lay
>> >> > > > > it on the ground.  They'll stick their head in there to lick it
>> >> > > > > off and get
>> >> > > > > it stuck on their head....wandering around chattering till 
>>another
>> >> > > > > coon
>> >> > > > > pulls it off.  I find them funny....and very amusing to watch.
>> >> > > > > But after
>> >> > > > > they are a certain age...they stay OUTSIDE because they are 
>>very,
>> >> > > > > very
>> >> > > > > destructive!!!  Our coon grew up with the dogs and when we let 
>>her
>> >> > > > > out...she
>> >> > > > > runs over to hug on my Jack Russell...they grew up as babies
>> >> > > > > together.  I
>> >> > > > > have pictures of them rolling on the floor fighting over a toy.
>> >> > > > > They don't
>> >> > > > > fight fair either....my little dog was sweet to her..and she
>> >> > > > > played dirty to
>> >> > > > > get her way.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> > > > > Claremore, OK
>> >> > > > > Zone 6
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > >From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> >> > > > > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > > > > >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Skunks/raccoons
>> >> > > > > >Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:02:14 -0500
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >So, Jessee,
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >...Raccoons are scavengers and junk-food junkies....
>> >> > > > > >You're saying they have no particular diet they should stick 
>>to?
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > ... As a licensed rehaber I can
>> >> > > > > > > tell you that a momma and her babies will find food..even 
>>if
>> >> > > > > it's
>> >> > > > > >bugs....
>> >> > > > > >You're saying they won't starve if I refuse to feed them?
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >...So, I will tell you that if you feed them,
>> >> > > > > > > be prepared to have them hang around for awhile....
>> >> > > > > >You're saying that it's ok to feed them, but I'll suffer the
>> >> > > > > consequences?>
>> >> > > > > >Is feeding them the wrong or right thing to do?
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >Kitty
>> >> > > > > >
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