Re: Doctor visit/heat patches

I use a Walgreens brand. It's nice and warm.  Just have to make sure you
wash hands after applying.  You don't want to touch your eyes with that on
your fingers.
Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit/heat patches


> I haven't tried the heat patches, but I did try some of that "Icy Hot"
stuff
> that supposedly takes away muscle pain. Now I know why. Your skin is
burning
> so bad and you're jumping around screaming that you can't think about the
> muscle pain. And it won't wash off! Who comes up with this junk????
> Andrea H
> Beaufort, SC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit
>
>
> > heat therapy patches ++++++++++++ (imagine crossed fingers fending off
> > demons!)
> >
> > Yes, I tried one of these back in March.....the worst possible thing I
did
> > for this problem.  It didn't help at all and then when I attempted to
> remove
> > it, the pain was excrutiating.  It left horrible, painful, purple
bruising
> > on my skin where there had been none before.  They might be fine for the
> > back area where skin is not as tender, but definitely not for tender
upper
> > arm skin.
> >
> > I do occasionally use a Bengay type of cream that helps somewhat.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit
> >
> >
> > > Kitty: Have you seen the heat therapy patches? Self adhesive with
> > > pockets of activated charcoal that are warmed by your own body
> > > temperature...stay warm for up to 12 hours and unlike heating pads
they
> > > don't continue to get hotter as the night wears on (and therefore they
> > > can't cause burns like heating pads). When I was having back spasms
> > > (it's a nurse's occupational hazard) a couple months ago, a friend of
> > > mine suggested these and my gosh, was I surprised at how well they
work.
> > > Like you, the pain was worst after I had slept because my back muscles
> > > cooled down and stiffened up without movement, but I found if I wore
one
> > > of these while I slept...ooh! what a difference. There's also
capsaicin
> > > creams, which contain a hot pepper derivative that are somewhat
cheaper
> > > and do basically the same thing, although IMO not quite as well.
Walmart
> > > pharmacy carries both. I think the patches are around $5-7 dollars for
2
> > > one time use patches, so kind of expensive, but even if you only used
> > > them once or twice a week, you'd probably feel better for a couple of
> > > nights of uninterrupted sleep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > >
> > > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > > --Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >  --- On Wed 07/21, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> > > From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:59:28 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your concern. I guess I'm just sort of from the
> > > same<br>school John is. Tough it out. I do not like the idea of
forever
> > > medication.<br>I've been on Naproxen, though, since about October and
> > > the Chiropractor<br>said, not now, but down the line, it would be good
> > > to get off of it. I think<br>an occasional trip when I can afford it
to
> > > the chiropractor would be my best<br>course of action, as well as
> > > working on the stretching every night. Really,<br>I am fine all day,
> > > just a vague, dull ache in my arm during the day if I<br>even think
> > > about it. The problem is mainly at night, so if I can work<br>around
> > > that, I shouldn't have much of a problem at all.<br>You know, I feel
> > > pretty guilty whining about this. I know many of you live<br>with many
> > > more health difficulties than I do. We all have aches and pains<br>and
> > > learn to deal with those that simply cannot be fixed. We simply
> > > learn<br>to accept and adjust our lives to continue doing the things
we
> > > enjoy. I'm<br>not missing out on a thing - except a bit of
> > > sleep.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
> > > "Donna" <justme@prairieinet.net><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> > > Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:40 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor
> > > visit<br><br><br>> That was my first thought too Pam.... but knowing a
> > > gal who did have<br>> this type of surgery, I doubt Kitty is bad
enough
> > > to warrent it at this<br>> time. It's not a nice - oh, I feel better-
> > > surgery for a long time.<br>><br>><br>> I am with Kitty, that the
> > > surgery is not needed now... maybe in the future<br>if she continues
to
> > > jump/turn after those cats :)<br>><br>> I am just glad she had it
> > > checked out.....so she knows where she stands<br>> on the issue....
not
> > > that we really have anything to say about it....<br>> but I am not
known
> > > for keeping my thoughts in my head :)<br>><br>><br>> Donna<br>><br>> >
> > > That's it?? Don't turn your head too fast?? Hmm, methinks I'd
> > > find<br>another neurologist. That's not much of an answer.<br>> ><br>>
>
> > > Pam Evans<br>> > Kemp, TX<br>> > zone 8
> > >
> > > A<br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: Kitty<br>> > Sent:
> > > 7/20/2004 11:29:56 PM<br>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> > Subject:
Re:
> > > Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit<br>> ><br>> > > Nothing to be done about the
> > > discs. The neurologist said to just not<br>turn<br>> ><br>> > > my
head
> > > too fast.<br>> ><br>> > > Kitty<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > > -----
> > > Original Message ----- <br>> ><br>> > > From:
> > > <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com><br>> ><br>> > > To:
> > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> ><br>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004
10:00
> > > PM<br>> ><br>> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit<br>> ><br>> >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > > > I'm glad you finally went. Been
> > > concerned about that! What about<br>that<br>> ><br>> > > disc
> > > problem?<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > Pam
> > > Evans<br>> ><br>> > > > Kemp, TX<br>> ><br>> > > > zone 8A<br>> ><br>>
>
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> ><br>> > > > From: Kitty<br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > Sent: 7/20/2004 9:52:28 PM<br>> ><br>> > > > To:
> > > gardenchat@hort.net<br>> ><br>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor
> > > visit<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > I finally went to a
> > > chiropractor because I awoke with horrendous<br>pain<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > Sunday<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > night.<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > She did a little adjusting, mentioning that
> > > shoulders aren't her<br>> ><br>> > > favorite -<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > take more time and work to untighten - and that my
> > > shoulder and<br>arm had<br>> ><br>> > > some<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > very tight areas. Said the trouble is and will always
be
> > > the<br>protruding<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > discs in my
neck
> > > that cause the shoulder problem that makes the<br>muscles<br>> ><br>>
>
> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > tighten in my upper arm. She did make it feel
> > > better; I<br>felt/heard a<br>> ><br>> > > couple<br>> ><br>> > >
><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > of crunches. She didn't want to do too much the first
> > > time as I'd<br>never<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > been
> > > "adjusted" befor
> > >
> > > e.
> > > Said to call when I felt I needed more.<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>>
>
> > > > > > Meanwhile, she explained that the pain occurs when I'm
> > > asleep<br>because<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > muscles
tighten
> > > when you sleep. (I'd've thought they'd relax<br>then.) She<br>> ><br>>
>
> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > said, when you want to untighten, you stretch;
> > > when you sleep you<br>might<br>> ><br>> > > toss<br>> ><br>> > >
><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > and turn but mainly you're stationary. So, I am
supposed
> > > to<br>stretch<br>> ><br>> > > before<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
>
> > > > I go to sleep and maybe eventually I will finally sleep
> > > through<br>the<br>> ><br>> > > night,<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> >
>
> > > > > first time in 4 months. This was way better than going to a
MD.<br>>
> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
> > > Kitty<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net><br>> ><br>> >
>
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:30 PM<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>>
><br>>
> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > And what did the doc say about your arm
> > > Kitty?<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > > Jim, they put me on Vioxx for my back, because it was
> > > the best<br>at not<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > upsetting
> > > your stomach, it just made my esophagus<br>bleed..........so<br>>
><br>>
> > > > > now I<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > take it only if I
> > > desperately need it. And it doesn't do much<br>good. A<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > massage and stretching and exercise do much
> > > better.<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > > Andrea H<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > >
> > > Beaufort, SC<br
> > >
> > > >> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> >
>
> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ----- Original Message
> > > ----- <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > From: "Kitty"
> > > <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > To:
> > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > Sent:
> > > Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:01 PM<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > >
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Doctor visit<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>>
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, those ads make me think I'd better not get sick.
> > > The<br>meds<br>> ><br>> > > will<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
> > > just<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > make me worse off. Note
> > > that liver problems are often a side<br>> ><br>> > > effect.<br>>
><br>>
> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > Kitty<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
>
> > > > > > BTW - To those who expressed concern....<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > > > I did go to a chiropractor today for my arm.<br>>
> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
>
> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message
> > > ----- <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > From: "james singer"
> > > <jsinger@igc.org><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > To: "Chat"
> > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > Sent:
> > > Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:02 PM<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > >
>
> > > Subject: [CHAT] Doctor visit<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > >
> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
> > > ><br>> > > > > > > > I watched a lot of those ads on the TV and they
> > > told me to<br>ask my<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > >
doctor
> > > for Nexium, or something spelled more or less like<br>that.<br>>
><br>>
> > > > > So I<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > did. And she said
> > > "Why do you want it?" And I said, "Because<br>I<br>> ><br>> > >
> > > want<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > headaches and nose
> > > bleeds."<br>> ><br>> >
> > >
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