Re: Heritage River Birch Pests

It wasn't gypsy moths, something else.  But a caterpillar of some sort.
Everything below was covered in black poop
Kitty
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests


> Sounds (no pun intended) like the year we had gypsy moths.  Their
crunching
> and pooping was out of control. :-)
> zem
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
>
>
> > Some sort of caterpillar. I wrote the group about it a few years ago,
> > asking about "black rain". They told me I was getting pooped on.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Zone5
> >
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> >
> >> hmmmmm, that hasn't happened to me yet, thank goodness. Pooped on by
> >> what?
> >> Caterpillars? Birds?
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea H
> >> Beaufort, SC
> >>
> >>
> >> > [Original Message]
> >> > From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >> > To:
> >> > Date: 7/7/2005 10:20:38 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> >
> >> > I used to get pooped on when I walked under my birch. This seemed to
> >> > have
> >> > sort of stopped on its own.
> >> >
> >> > Kitty
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "A A HODGES"
> >> > To:
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:46 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I don't think so. It gets lots of water. It's next to where I do my
> >> > > planting/potting so there is always run-off. I'm hoping Daryl is
> >> > > right
> >> and
> >> > > it's a young tree thing. It's really irritating. I can't walk under
> >> > > it
> >> > > without getting a bug on me!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrea H
> >> > > Beaufort, SC
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> > [Original Message]
> >> > > > From: Cathy Carpenter
> >> > > > To:
> >> > > > Date: 7/6/2005 8:45:26 PM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Could the birch be stressed? While B. nigra is more heat tolerant
> >> > > > than others, did you have unusually hot, or dry summers the past
> >> > > > couple years? Pests and diseases seem to have a sixth sense for
> >> > > > compromised hosts.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 6:08 PM, Daryl wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > No on the hort oil. I found this interesting bit on the web
> >> > > > > http://entweb.clemson.edu/cuentres/eiis/pdfs/TO17.PDF I didn't
> >> > > > > know that
> >> > > > > aphids ever had and alternate host.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Once the plant matures a bit, the problem seems to go away, at
> >> > > > > least it did
> >> > > > > for me. I'm sure it helped that I encouraged the good guys
> >> > > > > (ladybugs and
> >> > > > > such)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > d
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > > > > From: "A A HODGES"
> >> > > > > To:
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:55 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Yes, I've seen several on the tree. I always thought they
looked
> >> > > > >> like tiny
> >> > > > >> alligators, except the color. I had these things last year
too.
> >> > > > >> Should I
> >> > > > >> attempt to spray this winter you think?
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Andrea H
> >> > > > >> Beaufort, SC
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>> [Original Message]
> >> > > > >>> From: Daryl
> >> > > > >>> To:
> >> > > > >>> Date: 7/5/2005 8:06:12 AM
> >> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Some stages of Aphids have wings, and Aphids and sawflies
seem
> >> > > > >>> to
> >> > > > >>> be the
> >> > > > >>> major pests of birches around here, along with a few weeks of
> >> > > > >>> Japanese
> >> > > > >>> Beetles. In most cases, the infestations are self-limiting.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Do you know what baby ladybugs look like? If you've got
> >> > > > >>> ladybugs,
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > > they'll
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>> probably take care of the aphids for you.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> d
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > > > >>> From: "A A HODGES"
> >> > > > >>> To: "gardenchat"
> >> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:34 PM
> >> > > > >>> Subject: [CHAT] Heritage River Birch Pests
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>> Anyone ever had a problem with pests on a River Birch? This
is
> >> > > > >>>> Betula
> >> > > > >>>> Nigra 'Heritage.' This year, and last I had major problems
> >> > > > >>>> with
> >> > > > >>>> what
> >> > > > >>>> something that has wings, is tiny and is a piercing, sucking
> >> > > > >>>> insect.
> >> > > > >>>> Truthfully, they look like aphids with wings to me. I've
tried
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > blasting
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>>> them, and the tree also has quite a few ladybugs, but they
are
> >> > > > >>>> really
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>>> serious problem. My tree probably has half the leaves it
> >> > > > >>>> should.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> There also seem to be some kind of beetles that look like a
> >> > > > >>>> vegetable
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>> pest, maybe potato or cucumber beetles.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> What do I do? The tree was planted at the back of the house
in
> >> > > > >>>> a
> >> > > > >>>> very
> >> > > > >>>> wet area, near where I do my repotting, etc. It's about 15
> >> > > > >>>> feet
> >> > > > >>>> tall
> >> > > > >>>> now, and is growing rapidly, but probably not a rapidly as
it
> >> > > > >>>> should.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > I
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>>> planted it to create summer shade which is desperately
needed
> >> > > > >>>> at
> >> > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > >>>> back.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Should I wait until this winter and then get on a ladder and
> >> > > > >>>> blast it
> >> > > > >>>> with hort oil? I've never tried to systemically poison a
tree
> >> > > > >>>> before.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Suggestions?
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Andrea H
> >> > > > >>>> Beaufort, SC
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
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