Re: I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads

Yep, that triangular head gives them away.  Andrea, before I let her
highness out back, I do a complete circuit of the back yard to make
sure there's no more trouble makers.  And if she tries to get into a
brushy area, I give a tug on her tether and tell her no-no, mama does
not want you getting bit by a snake.  As small as cats are body
weight-wise compared to dogs, I'm not sure they'd last long enough to
get to the vet's office.


On 7/12/05, A A HODGES <hodgesaa@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I've never understood how people can mistake corn snakes for copperheads.
> Although the coloring is marginally similar when corn snakes get older, to
> me, they look nothing alike. And the very pronounced triangle shape of the
> copperhead, um head, is a dead give away. Sorry, worked in a museum where
> we had several corn snakes and I was very fond of them. I would love to
> have a king snake on the property, but the dogs would probably scare him
> off.
> 
> Andrea H
> Beaufort, SC
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Bonnie Holmes <holmesbm@usit.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 7/12/2005 5:54:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads
> >
> > Right, they are smaller and fatter than most other snakes.  There is also
> > an Eastern Corn Snake that looks superficially like a copperhead but has a
> > white and black piano key-like checkered stomach.  In earlier times,
> > farmers would put them in their corn cribs to keep down the rats.
> > Unfortunately, many people kill them, thinking they are copperheads.
> >
> > While finishing up my moving chore this afternoon, I came across a rather
> > large black snake skin.  Glad to see it to help keep down rats, mice, and
> > other snakes.  I was almost finished when I ran into a yellow jacket
> nest.
> > We always seem to get them, even though I put out traps.  I wish the snake
> > would eat them...unfortunately, one of their enemies, skunks, have been
> > scarce around here.
> >
> > Bonnie ETN Zone 7, who is allergic but is taking monthly shots so only
> came
> > out of this with sore spots on her legs.
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Date: 7/12/2005 1:45:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads
> > >
> > > Is that all the bigger they get?   Well, I guess that was an adult one
> > > that got the Anne Boleyn treatment here a month or so back.   Hmmm.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/12/05, Zemuly Sanders <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > While few humans die from being bitten by copperheads, I would imagine
> > an
> > > > untreated bite would be fatal for a dog.  I did a lot of research on
> > > > copperheads when I realized there were lots of them in the nursery
> > where I
> > > > was working.  Apparently they have a perfectly formed poison delivery
> > system
> > > > when they hatch, and, while not deadly, a bite from a baby one can be
> > > > excrutiatingly painful.  The only reason the bite of an adult is not
> > fatal
> > > > is that the snakes only grow up to 2-1/2 feet long.  I'm sure this is
> > more
> > > > than you ever wanted to know.  Bonnie H. was so right in saying a big
> > black
> > > > snake would take care of the problem.  King snakes eat copperheads and
> > are
> > > > highly valued by those people who actually know what they are.
> > > > zem
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:28 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> Thanks Eva. She seems OK this morning although the swelling is
> still
> > > > >> there.
> > > > >> Here neck area is the worst. It's like the fluid is stuck there.
> > She's
> > > > >> breathing OK though and I just gave her more benadryl so I'm going
> > to go
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> work. I think she should be OK. My Vet is convinced the antivenom
> > saved
> > > > >> her. I'm just glad she's OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrea,
> > > > >
> > > > >   That's wonderful news!  Thank goodness it was a species of snake
> > that
> > > > >   doesn't have particularly powerful venom.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Is there a limit on how often the antivenin can be administered?
> > I've
> > > > >   heard stories about certain antivenins that can only be used once
> in
> > > > >   a patient's lifetime, but I'm guessing that isn't the case with
> > > > >   copperheads.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Anyhow, I'm glad to hear that things are looking better.  And good
> > deal
> > > > >   on your hair, too!  I'm just waiting for you to send a pic to
> Donna
> > > > >   for us to laugh at.  ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > Pam Evans
> > > Kemp TX
> > > zone 8A
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Kemp TX
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