RE:NOW Copperheads

Yes, I beat the bushes tonight when I went out, checked out the greenhouse
to make sure nothing was lurking in there. The only thing hiding in the
yard that I could find was a rabbit. It's been living in my yard and
actually avoiding getting caught by the dogs. It better be glad I don't
have greyhounds. So far it hasn't bothered any plants that I can see. I see
it munching on the dollarweed and duckweed that grow prolifically in my
boggy soil. 

Andrea H
Beaufort, SC 


> [Original Message]
> From: Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 7/12/2005 8:50:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads
>
> Yep, that triangular head gives them away.  Andrea, before I let her
> highness out back, I do a complete circuit of the back yard to make
> sure there's no more trouble makers.  And if she tries to get into a
> brushy area, I give a tug on her tether and tell her no-no, mama does
> not want you getting bit by a snake.  As small as cats are body
> weight-wise compared to dogs, I'm not sure they'd last long enough to
> get to the vet's office.
>
>
> On 7/12/05, A A HODGES <hodgesaa@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I've never understood how people can mistake corn snakes for
copperheads.
> > Although the coloring is marginally similar when corn snakes get older,
to
> > me, they look nothing alike. And the very pronounced triangle shape of
the
> > copperhead, um head, is a dead give away. Sorry, worked in a museum
where
> > we had several corn snakes and I was very fond of them. I would love to
> > have a king snake on the property, but the dogs would probably scare him
> > off.
> > 
> > Andrea H
> > Beaufort, SC
> > 
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Bonnie Holmes <holmesbm@usit.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Date: 7/12/2005 5:54:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads
> > >
> > > Right, they are smaller and fatter than most other snakes.  There is
also
> > > an Eastern Corn Snake that looks superficially like a copperhead but
has a
> > > white and black piano key-like checkered stomach.  In earlier times,
> > > farmers would put them in their corn cribs to keep down the rats.
> > > Unfortunately, many people kill them, thinking they are copperheads.
> > >
> > > While finishing up my moving chore this afternoon, I came across a
rather
> > > large black snake skin.  Glad to see it to help keep down rats, mice,
and
> > > other snakes.  I was almost finished when I ran into a yellow jacket
> > nest.
> > > We always seem to get them, even though I put out traps.  I wish the
snake
> > > would eat them...unfortunately, one of their enemies, skunks, have
been
> > > scarce around here.
> > >
> > > Bonnie ETN Zone 7, who is allergic but is taking monthly shots so only
> > came
> > > out of this with sore spots on her legs.
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Date: 7/12/2005 1:45:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted NOW Copperheads
> > > >
> > > > Is that all the bigger they get?   Well, I guess that was an adult
one
> > > > that got the Anne Boleyn treatment here a month or so back.   Hmmm.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/12/05, Zemuly Sanders <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > While few humans die from being bitten by copperheads, I would
imagine
> > > an
> > > > > untreated bite would be fatal for a dog.  I did a lot of research
on
> > > > > copperheads when I realized there were lots of them in the nursery
> > > where I
> > > > > was working.  Apparently they have a perfectly formed poison
delivery
> > > system
> > > > > when they hatch, and, while not deadly, a bite from a baby one
can be
> > > > > excrutiatingly painful.  The only reason the bite of an adult is
not
> > > fatal
> > > > > is that the snakes only grow up to 2-1/2 feet long.  I'm sure
this is
> > > more
> > > > > than you ever wanted to know.  Bonnie H. was so right in saying a
big
> > > black
> > > > > snake would take care of the problem.  King snakes eat
copperheads and
> > > are
> > > > > highly valued by those people who actually know what they are.
> > > > > zem
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Eva. She seems OK this morning although the swelling is
> > still
> > > > > >> there.
> > > > > >> Here neck area is the worst. It's like the fluid is stuck
there.
> > > She's
> > > > > >> breathing OK though and I just gave her more benadryl so I'm
going
> > > to go
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> work. I think she should be OK. My Vet is convinced the
antivenom
> > > saved
> > > > > >> her. I'm just glad she's OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrea,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   That's wonderful news!  Thank goodness it was a species of
snake
> > > that
> > > > > >   doesn't have particularly powerful venom.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Is there a limit on how often the antivenin can be
administered?
> > > I've
> > > > > >   heard stories about certain antivenins that can only be used
once
> > in
> > > > > >   a patient's lifetime, but I'm guessing that isn't the case
with
> > > > > >   copperheads.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Anyhow, I'm glad to hear that things are looking better.  And
good
> > > deal
> > > > > >   on your hair, too!  I'm just waiting for you to send a pic to
> > Donna
> > > > > >   for us to laugh at.  ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > Pam Evans
> > > > Kemp TX
> > > > zone 8A
> > > >
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> Kemp TX
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