Re: Emily

Well there ya go. I'll have to remember the date of creation. That's
fascinating stuff......................;O

Andrea H
Beaufort, SC 


> [Original Message]
> From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 7/13/2005 5:51:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
>
> I bought a house once that was built at the turn of the last century. I  
> found two items in the attic--a small copper still and a bible. Sold  
> the still; still have the bible. It's a big bulky thing for which some  
> "scholar" had compiled a concordance that is printed in the margins.  
> Same scholar, I suppose, also assigned dates to events. Did you know,  
> for example, the the earth was created on September 22, 4004 BC? I  
> thought not; modern education ignores many of these important facts.
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:23 PM, A A HODGES wrote:
>
> > 40%??? That's alarming.
> >
> > I had to teach a class on dinosaurs my first year out of college at the
> > museum I worked for. I had a Christian academy class come in one day.  
> > They
> > brought their texts with them, and I soon found out that the only  
> > reason
> > they came to the class was to argue their point that dinosaurs and man
> > "walked the earth together." Their text actually depicted a photograph  
> > on a
> > dinosaur fossil and a fossilized "caveman" footprint in the same  
> > picture,
> > thus proving that they lived at the same time according to the text.  
> > It was
> > disconcerting to say the least, and of course I was only 22 at the  
> > time and
> > had no idea how to respond with offending someone. Now, I am NOT  
> > slamming
> > the Christian religion, so no one start getting upset please, but that  
> > was
> > way over the top. It amazed and appalled me what those children were  
> > being
> > taught.
> >
> > Andrea H
> > Beaufort, SC
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Date: 7/12/2005 8:59:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
> >>
> >> Hey Jim
> >>
> >> Interesting and goes along with my thoughts.  One word on what you  
> >> wrote
> >> about evolution:  National Geographic had an interesting article on
> >> evolution and Darwin's journeys.  The author lamented that the title  
> >> of
> > that
> >> breakthrough scientific work was labeled "The Theory of Evolution."   
> >> This
> >> gave the naysayers wiggle room  to denigrate it as merely a
> > theory...meaning
> >> just an idea rather than a firm scientific basis for the study of life
> >> science.  Also, and I think I wrote about this a few months ago, most
> >> shocking of all was that more than 40% of the American people do not  
> >> buy
> > the
> >> theory.  A significant number believe that the age of the  
> >> earth/universe
> > can
> >> be counted in thousands not billions of years.
> >>
> >> David
> >> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
> >>
> >>
> >>> This may sound like I'm running for office, David, but I think it's
> > both.
> >>> In the short term, I think it's the cyclical crap shoot that weather
> > has
> >>> always seemed to be--the stuff of the Farmer's Almanac. But I think
> > this
> >>> is playing out on top of significant long-term change. A key factor  
> >>> in
> >>> What's-His-Name Grey's, the hurricane guru at University of Colorado,
> >>> prognostications is El Nino--and the occurrence, recurrence of El  
> >>> Nino
> >>> seems to be influenced by the continual warming of the earth.
> >>>
> >>> The scary part is that these effects are cumulative. The worst of  
> >>> what
> > you
> >>> see today will be the best you can hope for tomorrow. It took a  
> >>> couple
> > of
> >>> hundred years of reckless fossil-fuel emissions to get us here--to  
> >>> the
> >>> front edge of reaping our harvest; it will surely take that long a
> > period
> >>> of constrained stewardship to get us back to a less hazardous
> > environment,
> >>> or even to one where we can maintain an environmental status quo.
> >>>
> >>> David, the problem with "theories" is a rhetorical one. Two come to
> >>> mind--evolution and global warming. They are theories because they  
> >>> have
> >>> not been definitively proven beyond all doubt. Most intelligent  
> >>> people
> >>> understand that caveat; most intelligent people also believe the
> > theories
> >>> are true or very close to true. The only significant deniers are the
> >>> Kansas state school board and the current administration in  
> >>> Washington.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 12, 2005, at 6:58 PM, David Franzman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So Jim I think you and I agree about this greenhouse effect thing.
> >>>> Everybody expects instant changes and when we have one hot period  
> >>>> some
> >>>> are claiming that it's because of the gh effect.  You and I both  
> >>>> know
> > it
> >>>> takes more than just one season to prove or disprove a theory.
> > However,
> >>>> I wanted to ask you about last year and this years hurricanes.   
> >>>> We're
> > off
> >>>> to the fastest start since recorded history.  Last year was a huge
> > year
> >>>> with a friend of mine in Gainesville being whacked three times.
> > Weather
> >>>> events are cyclical but would you consider the current trend an
> > anomoly
> >>>> or a direct result of climatic change?  Just curious if your opinion
> > has
> >>>> been altered over the last year or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >>>> <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >>>> To: "Garden Chat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 AM
> >>>> Subject: [CHAT] Emily
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Now it looks like Emily is heading for the Gulf. We'll know better  
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> Sunday when it batters Cuba.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Island Jim
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