Re: I'm exhausted; Now snakes

Don't rats have an affinity for indoors as well?

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Jul 13, 2005, at 8:25 AM, james singer wrote:

> Rat snakes seem to have an affinity for the indoors. I found one in  
> my office at the nursery, and one of our designers found one in his  
> file cabinet.
>
> On Jul 13, 2005, at 8:22 AM, Lynda Young wrote:
>
>
>> I arrived home from work one day last week and opened my front  
>> door to
>> see a 3' snake slithering across my living room floor.  Startled  
>> me, to
>> say the least.  He make it into the kitchen before I could get close
>> enough to identify him so I called hubby in from the yard to help me
>> corral him.  Roy came in just as he slid under the refrigerator  
>> and we
>> ended up having to move the frig to get to him.  Thought he had
>> disappeared until I spotted him tucked into the hose recess, coiled
>> around the connection.  Took some doing but we herded him into a  
>> waste
>> basket - little bugger could move!  It was a harmless rat snake so we
>> carted him back outside and released him.  Have no idea how he  
>> managed
>> to get into the house, but I find myself thinking twice about walking
>> barefoot in the dark (as if my flip flops offer any sort of
>> protection!).  I love my beneficial snakes but I prefer they remain
>> outdoors.
>>
>> Lynda
>> Zone 7 - West TN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of james singer
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:10 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted
>>
>>
>> I don't know anyplace that's snake-free except the Old Sod,  
>> Andrea, so
>> doubt if running will help. We have the deadly coral snake here, but
>> it's shy--I've only seen one--and water moccasins. Neither of them in
>> abundance. We have lots of black snakes, king snakes, and rat snakes,
>> but not as many as I would like--not enough to keep the squirrel and
>> opossum populations down. We also have Burmese pythons that people  
>> have
>> wearied of as pets and set free in the countryside. They are  
>> useful for
>> keeping feral pig populations in check, but we need more of them.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2005, at 6:50 PM, A A HODGES wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Chris, you are correct. She cannot have antivenom ever again. So,  
>>> Eva,
>>> that
>>> would be the only long-term effect on her system. My Vet tried just
>>> one CC
>>> on a dog that had antivenom before (in the case of another snake  
>>> bite)
>>>
>>
>>
>>> and
>>> the poor dog went into convulsions immediately. SO, I've got to be
>>> really
>>> careful. I'll have to start doing snake patrols. Also, I'm  
>>> thinking of
>>> moving from Beaufort, even though I know there are poisonous snakes
>>> everywhere. We in the hot humid areas just seem to have an over
>>> abundance
>>> of them.
>>>
>>> On the hair Chris, Sorry Pal, it's fixed. The alteration of adding
>>> golden
>>> blonde to the pink-red worked and now it's back to fiery copper,  
>>> which
>>>
>>
>>
>>> is
>>> what I like. ;-)
>>> A
>>>
>>> Andrea H
>>> Beaufort, SC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: Christopher P. Lindsey <lindsey@mallorn.com>
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>> Date: 7/12/2005 8:28:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] I'm exhausted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Eva. She seems OK this morning although the swelling is  
>>>>> still
>>>>>
>>> there.
>>>
>>>>> Here neck area is the worst. It's like the fluid is stuck there.
>>>>> She's
>>>>> breathing OK though and I just gave her more benadryl so I'm going
>>>>>
>> to
>>
>>> go to
>>>
>>>>> work. I think she should be OK. My Vet is convinced the antivenom
>>>>> saved
>>>>> her. I'm just glad she's OK.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrea,
>>>>
>>>>    That's wonderful news!  Thank goodness it was a species of snake
>>>> that
>>>>    doesn't have particularly powerful venom.
>>>>
>>>>    Is there a limit on how often the antivenin can be administered?
>>>> I've
>>>>    heard stories about certain antivenins that can only be used  
>>>> once
>>>> in
>>>>    a patient's lifetime, but I'm guessing that isn't the case with
>>>>    copperheads.
>>>>
>>>>    Anyhow, I'm glad to hear that things are looking better.  And  
>>>> good
>>>> deal
>>>>    on your hair, too!  I'm just waiting for you to send a pic to
>>>>
>> Donna
>>
>>>>    for us to laugh at.  ;)
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
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>> Island Jim
>> Southwest Florida
>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
>> Hardiness Zone 10
>> Heat Zone 10
>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> Hardiness Zone 10
> Heat Zone 10
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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