Re: Pams lighening

You haven't been In Kaufman County, our roads really BITE.  They are
in terrible shape.  You don't need a sign to tell you you are back in
Kaufman County, the quality of the road tells you that.

On 7/15/05, Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> wrote:
> Here where I work there was a project some years back to remove the power
> poles and put all the cable underground along one major road. Very expensive
> as there was not only power but also communications and TV cable on the
> poles, so they had to run a lot of conduit. Also very disruptive, the street
> was torn up for months as they worked their way down. It didn't help that in
> many places here the soil is contaminated with jet fuel. I suspect most
> communities don't have that problem!
> When they built a golf course community near my house, the city took half of
> the road between my neighborhood and the golf course to run their power
> poles. We didn't have a lot of choice about losing the street but we
> bellowed pretty loud about putting the power underground. In the end they
> claimed they couldn't afford it because the amount of power going through
> there meant the conduit had to be cooled, and there wasn't enough money.
> Could be true I guess.
> 
> Cyndi
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> Of David Franzman
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:25 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> 
> 
> Hey Zem
> 
> I understand the expense of sinking all of the older lines though you would
> think that would be cheaper in the long run than restringing them all
> everytime you have some tropical storm.  However, I was driving around
> Orlando which is a fairly new city so to speak and they are still above
> ground.  I thought maybe that there is a problem with the proximity of the
> ground water or something that prevents it.
> 
> Speaking of economics and infrastructure you folks in the south should know
> that at least your highways are much better than California's.  Our system
> designed and built in the 60's is really showing it's age while your systems
> 
> seem much newer and better kept.
> 
> David
> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
> To: "gardenchat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> 
> 
> > It would be too expensive to go back and put all those lines
> > underground. There are some newly developed areas that do have
> > underground utilities, but not many.
> > zem
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 6:17 PM
> > Subject: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> >
> >
> >> Pam I'm sorry to hear of your friends loss.  It does lead me to a
> >> question
> >> though.  Did they have that wonderful invention by Benjamin Franklin
> >> called a lightening rod?  The reason I asked is because I visited one of
> >> my suppliers in Gainesville Fl. which is reputed to be the lightening
> >> capital of the world.  He didn't have a lightening rod.  I don't get it!
> >>
> >> Along the same lines (pardon the pun) I notice that all of the
> >> electrical lines are above ground.  I would think that with tropical
> >> storms and hurricanes one would want to have underground lines like
> >> we have here in many parts of Ca.  How come they don't in Fl. Miss,
> >> La and presumably other southern gulf states?
> >>
> >> David
> >> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:30 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>
> >>
> >>> OMG! That's horrible Pam! Please let them know they're in my
> >>> thoughts. A
> >>>
> >>> Andrea H
> >>> Beaufort, SC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> [Original Message]
> >>>> From: Donna <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Date: 7/13/2005 11:41:08 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh Pam... I am so sorry to hear this! I hope the insurance takes
> >>>> care
> >>>> of
> >>>> everything and THANK GOD, they were not in there....
> >>>>
> >>>> Anything I can do from here?
> >>>>
> >>>> Donna
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Well Daryl - you don't have to be in a hurricane's path for
> >>>> > disaster to strike.  A little pocket storm popped up in Kaufman
> >>>> > late this afternoon. Lightning hit my friends Elaine & Mike's
> >>>> > business.  Burned to the ground - total loss.  Plus their motor
> >>>> > home, boat, tractor & her late mother's car that were all in the
> >>>> > warehouse.  Thank God she was across
> >>>> > the street at A-Box & he had just gone to Home Depot.  Firemen told
> >>>> > us
> >>>> > anyone who had been in the building (metal) would have been
> >>>> > electrocuted or incinerated.   What a bloody awful mess.  I'm still
> >>>> > in
> >>>> > shock.
> >>>> > And it didn't even rain here (10 miles away) can you believe it?
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 7/12/05, Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > > Daryl darlin' - you can sure tell a story!  And been saying prayers
> >>>> > > for all in Cindy's, Dennis' and now Emily's path.   I have some
> >>>> > > pretty
> >>>> > > ugly flashbacks from Agnes in '72, so I understand.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On 7/12/05, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >>>> > > <4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> >>>> > > > nothing but clouds so far.
> >>>> > > > Kitty
> >>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > > > From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:28 PM
> >>>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > > Yep. I sure didn't reckon on all of the noise.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Hope you're getting some of this downpour. Sheesh! Enough
> >>>> > > > > already!
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > d
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > > > > From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> >>>> > > > > <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:07 PM
> >>>> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Oh, what a mess, Daryl.  I remember when my house flooded
> >>>> > > > > > from
> >>>> > > > > > a
> >>>> > loose
> >>>> > > > > pipe,
> >>>> > > > > > the cleanup crew brought in huge turbo fans and
> >>>> > > > > > dehumidifiers.
> >>>> > All the
> >>>> > > > > > windows had to be kept shut so the dehumidifiers wouldn't
> >>>> > > > > > also
> >>>> > draw
> >>>> > > > > outside
> >>>> > > > > > moisture.  The heat that built up was not so terribly bad
> >>> because
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > > > > turbo
> >>>> > > > > > fans kept the air moving, but they were so loud you
> >>>> > > > > > couldn't
> >>> hear
> >>>> > > > yourself
> >>>> > > > > > think.  I slept outside in the Florida room that whole
> >>>> > > > > > week.
> >>> I'm
> >>>> > not
> >>>> > > > > trying
> >>>> > > > > > to compare my situation to what you're going through,
> >>>> > > > > > just
> >>> trying
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > > > > relate.
> >>>> > > > > > I had it easy compared to your problem.  Good luck.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Kitty
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > > > > > From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>> > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:37 PM
> >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > Pam,
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > Is that a corollary to these two? To a New Yorker,
> >>>> > > > > > > anything
> >>> that
> >>>> > isn't
> >>>> > > > > New
> >>>> > > > > > > York is West. And to a Midwesterner, anything east of
> >>>> > > > > > > Indiana
> >>> is
> >>>> > New
> >>>> > > > > York?
> >>>> > > > > > > ;-)
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > The sun came out for a little bit today. Mostly it
> >>>> > > > > > > seems to
> >>> have
> >>>> > built
> >>>> > > > > up
> >>>> > > > > > > storms. Fortunately so far they've stayed just west of
> >>>> > > > > > > us but
> >>>> > they're
> >>>> > > > > > > closing in.
> >>>> > > > > > > The good news is that I won't have to water for a
> >>>> > > > > > > while.
> >>>> > > > > > > The
> >>> bad
> >>>> > news
> >>>> > > > is
> >>>> > > > > > > that the septic drainfield flooded. We've been here 24
> >>>> > > > > > > years
> >>> and
> >>>> > > > that's
> >>>> > > > > > > rarely happened until this year. The good news is that
> >>>> > > > > > > I'm
> >>> aware
> >>>> > of
> >>>> > > > it.
> >>>> > > > > > The
> >>>> > > > > > > bad news is that I have a bunch of clothes that I can't
> >>>> > > > > > > get
> >>>> > washed,
> >>>> > > > and
> >>>> > > > > I
> >>>> > > > > > > need to, since I'm headed to Wisconsin on Thursday.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > The good news is that the dehumidifier we bought
> >>>> > > > > > > yesterday is
> >>>> > drying
> >>>> > > > out
> >>>> > > > > > the
> >>>> > > > > > > rugs and the walls and ceiling. The bad news is that it
> >>>> > > > > > > raises
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > > > > > > temperature. The good news is that the ceiling didn't
> >>>> > > > > > > cave in.
> >>>> > The bad
> >>>> > > > > > news
> >>>> > > > > > > is that the ceiling has some ugly black marks that are
> >>>> > > > > > > maybe
> >>> 3'
> >>>> > long
> >>>> > > > and
> >>>> > > > > a
> >>>> > > > > > > foot wide in spots.
> >>>> > > > > > > The good news is that the furnace and the AC fan in the
> >>>> > crawlspace
> >>>> > > > > didn't
> >>>> > > > > > > flood. The bad news is that the crawlspace took on a
> >>>> > > > > > > good bit
> >>> of
> >>>> > > > water,
> >>>> > > > > > and
> >>>> > > > > > > is so humid, the AC isn't helping reduce the humidity
> >>>> > > > > > > in here
> >>>> > very
> >>>> > > > much.
> >>>> > > > > > > The good news is that I only permanently lost a
> >>>> > > > > > > Tithonia
> >>>> > > > > > > and
> >>>> > some tree
> >>>> > > > > > > branches - not counting any drowned plants that just
> >>>> > > > > > > haven't
> >>>> > shown it
> >>>> > > > > yet.
> >>>> > > > > > > The bad news is that there's a lot of flopped over
> >>>> > stuff/diseased
> >>>> > > > stuff.
> >>>> > > > > > But
> >>>> > > > > > > it could be so much worse. We're thankful.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > We still haven't heard from our friends in Pensacola -
> >>>> > > > > > > the
> >>> ones
> >>>> > that
> >>>> > > > > lost
> >>>> > > > > > > pretty much everything (including the kitchen sink and
> >>>> > countertops) to
> >>>> > > > > > Ivan
> >>>> > > > > > > last year. Still keeping fingers crossed. If you know
> >>>> > > > > > > some
> >>>> > prayers,
> >>>> > > > > Becca
> >>>> > > > > > > could surely use them. Poor Becca was just starting to
> >>>> > repopulate a
> >>>> > > > few
> >>>> > > > > of
> >>>> > > > > > > her beloved garden beds with cuttings and plants sent
> >>>> > > > > > > from
> >>>> > friends.
> >>>> > > > Not
> >>>> > > > > > only
> >>>> > > > > > > did she lose plants, but soil, and had to pick out
> >>>> > > > > > > thousands
> >>> of
> >>>> > pieces
> >>>> > > > > of
> >>>> > > > > > > glass, wallboard, videotapes. old clothes, and all
> >>>> > > > > > > manner
> >>>> > > > > > > of
> >>>> > other
> >>>> > > > > things
> >>>> > > > > > > before she could plant anything at all.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > Kitty, I'll be happy to send rain. After several weeks
> >>>> > > > > > > of dry,
> >>>> > we'd
> >>>> > > > just
> >>>> > > > > > > gotten a new well pump put in (to the tune of over
> >>>> > > > > > > $800)
> >>>> > > > > > > the
> >>> day
> >>>> > > > before
> >>>> > > > > it
> >>>> > > > > > > started raining. Who knew?
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > d
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > > > > > > From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> >>>> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:46 PM
> >>>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > Sorry darlin' - anything East of the Big Muddy is
> >>>> > > > > > > > East to a
> >>>> > Texan!!
> >>>> > > > > > LOL
> >>>> > > > > > > > Things better today?
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
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> >>>> > > Pam Evans
> >>>> > > Kemp TX
> >>>> > > zone 8A
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> >>>> > Kemp TX
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Kemp TX
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