RE: weather + kudos

Let me know if you ever head southwest toward Cincinnati (Dayton) area.

Blessings,
Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) 

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From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Josh Haskell
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:55 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos

Lake County


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather + kudos


> Josh, where in Ohio are you?
>
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of Josh Haskell
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:08 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos
>
> Kitty,
>
>        Good questions, and I'll try to delve further next week.  But the
> short answer is: that is what Stearn says ("Cassinoides -- Resembling Ilex
> cassine") and he knows more about plant names than anyone else I'm aware 
> of.
>
> He's probably right since Linnaeus named Ilex cassine, and had only two
> species listed in the genus Cassine (at least that's what I see in my 
> index,
> but I'll check it out to be sure).  I agree that he may not be referring 
> to
> the leaves, but I was responding to Cathy's suggestion that the reference
> might be to the leaves.  I don't see the resemblance, but could be wrong, 
> or
> it may be referring to another feature, and if so I'd be interested to 
> know
> what it is.  The more I look into these questions, the more I am surprised
> that there is so little information available about the derivation of 
> plant
> names.  If only Rehder were still around!
>
>
>
>                                   Josh Haskell
>
>
>                                   Ohio -- Zone 5
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos
>
>
>> So Josh, how would one know what Linneaus and his buds meant by the
>> species name, cassinoides?  Yes, it means Cassine-like, but how are we to
>> know whether it resembles the genus, Cassine, or as in your citing, a
>> species called cassine, within another genus?  Or did they also mean that
>> Ilex cassine also looks like the genus, Cassine, and just didn't feel 
>> like
>
>> adding -oides, or even -folia?
>>
>> Kitty
>> neIN, Zone 5
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Josh Haskell" <haskell@ncweb.com>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos
>>
>>
>>> Cathy,
>>>
>>>        Viburnum cassinoides -- That's right; leaves like Cassine, Ilex
>>> cassine (Common name: Dahoon), but I am not at all sure the resemblance
>>> is that accurate.  If anyone has input on that, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>>                                                  Josh Haskell
>>>                                                  Ohio -- Zone 5
>>>                                                  Lurking, but still
>>> around
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos
>>>
>>>
>>>> Have no idea, since I have never seen a Cassine, but venturing a
>>>> guess, V. cassinoides might have leaves resembling it.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Kitty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Viburnum cassinoides - Appalachian Tea Tree or Withe Rod
>>>>> Any -oides catches my attention and I was curious just what this V
>>>>> resembled.  One book said Cassine-like; but what's Cassine?
>>>>> There's Cassia and Cassinia, and then I saw Cassine - a genus of 80
>>>>> evergreen shrubs or trees.  I wonder which Cassine your Viburnum
>>>>> resembles.  Since they are zone 10, I suppose only Jim would know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kitty
>>>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter"
>>>>> <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather + kudos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing here... same old story - rain north, south, and east of us,
>>>>>> but not a drop here. (Not that I want the storms St. Louis and
>>>>>> Chicago are having, but wet would be nice.) So I'm dragging the hose
>>>>>> around today. Heat index may be as high as 115. They say there may be
>>>>>> a cool down on Saturday, but don't give us more than a 40% chance of
>>>>>> rain in the "forecastible" future. (Around here, 40% generally = 0)
>>>>>> Have to pass along my most recent experience with Arborvillage
>>>>>> Nursery in Missouri. I'd ordered a number of shrubs in the spring.
>>>>>> They arrived in good shape, but the small V. cassinoides died less
>>>>>> than a week after planting. I called the nursery and explained the
>>>>>> situation. They said they would replace it, and I added a
>>>>>> 'Winterthur' viburnum to the order. The two plants arrived promptly,
>>>>>> but no invoice, so I waited for my credit card statement.
>>>>>> Arborvillage did not charge me - not for shipping, not for the
>>>>>> replacement, not for the additional plant! Now that is customer
>>>>>> service. (I do order from them regularly, but still...)
>>>>>> The second cassinoides did well, but yesterday it was decapitated by
>>>>>> (probably) a rabbit.... sigh....  Guess I'll do a different native
>>>>>> viburnum for my fall order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Donna wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been involved with 2 twisters and 1 microburst already in my
>>>>>>> life... not looking forward to any more :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know the signs, know the sounds, so I am luckier than most....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doubt any will hit here unless a new system comes thru... you and
>>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>>> (and maybe others?) are the ones that front might cause damage
>>>>>>> too...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still raining buckets here. Nope, no basement, lotsa windows in my
>>>>>>> office, but I could high tail it to the warehouse in back- cinder
>>>>>>> block
>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>>> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
>>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:32:28 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep an ear to the radio, Donna.  Some twisters give very little
>>>>>>> notice.
>>>>>>> Does your building have a nice basement for refuge or at least a few
>>>>>>> interior rooms without glass?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Donna
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: gardenchat list
>>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] weather
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> raining here today.... wish I could share with those who need it,
>>>>>>> we all
>>>>>>> need it, but why buckets worth? Do we really need that light show
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>> with? Street infront of work is once again flooded. sigh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, as I was driving into work, the sky is really scary....
>>>>>>> reminds me
>>>>>>> of a twister forming. Not established enough here, but those to the
>>>>>>> south- southeast... watch it... stay safe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully if it does form, it will touch down in some remote field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>
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