Re: tomato disease

When I moved here there was a largish overgrown vegetable bed packed thickly and about 4 feet high with various weeds, much of it Canada thistle and bindweed - two very difficult weeds to irradicate. I solarized it. Luckily it was an out of the ordinary (for neIN) clear-sky hot summer. It pretty much did the trick. Any hangers on - mainly around the edges - I did what you are doing, just kept pulling. They eventually ran out of any stored energy they had. Took a couple of years of pulling, but they were gone. Only recently anm I seeing a resergece of bindweed. It's new stuff coming from next door. That stuff can really travel. Pulling works, but you have to stay vigilent. If it get long enough, it is able to create and store new energy rather than expending stored energy.
Solarization is an excellent method if you have the time and the right conditions. 

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
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Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] tomato disease



My sister who lives in Chesnee, SC has trouble with chips.  I haven't seen
any here.  I am having trouble with morning glory and bind weed.  I think
I'm going to have to resort to Roundup in my none food areas.  It is in my
veggie gardens. I have tried two things. I have five raised beds. In the 
empty bed, I covered the bed with large pieces of cardboard (we did a
bathroom rennovation so many of the items came in large cardboard
containers) and kept pulling out whatever vine peaked out.  Now, I am
seeing little.  In my other beds where I had/have tomatoes, cantaloupes,
garlic and onions I just keep pulling out the vine.  Does anyone else know
a better way?



[Original Message]
From: Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 7/4/2009 10:41:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] tomato disease

My parents have the same problem w/ bird feeders Auralie, but in their

case

it's the bears that tear them up.  I remind them of course that they do

live

in Bear Creek and it had to get its name from something that lived in the
area.  LOL

On 7/3/09, Aplfgcnys@aol.com <Aplfgcnys@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Kitty, I was not offended.  I just realized that we have different
> perspectives
> on the matter.  I, too enjoy wildlife, and am constantly amazed at the
> wealth
> of wildlife we have here in the midst of suburban sprawl less than 40

miles

> from Manhattan and in a densly populated area of the country.  But it

seems

> that the deer get more agressive each year - they have eaten things in

the

> past year that they never touched before, and this year even my weekly
> spraying of DeerOff and DeerSolution has not sufficed.  This week they
> ate the container-grown plants on my doorstep even though they had been
> sprayed. Squirrels are becoming a major problem with our bird-feeders.
> I know all the arguments against feeding birds, but we do enjoy > watching 
> them so much that we indulge ourselves.  We spend an inordinate amount
> of money on suet cakes for the woodpeckers and sunflower hearts for the
> goldfinches and others, but the squirrels have become so aggressive > that 
> they eat more than the birds.  Chet has purchased a shield to cover the
> tube-feeder, but some of the squirrels have managed to climb up through
> my hanging baskets of tomatoes and stretch across to the feeder - doing
> damage to the tomatoes at the same time.  We have to bring in the

bird-food
> at dark each night because of the raccoons. A couple of nights ago > Chet 
> forgot to go for the bird-food until about 10:00 and found that by that
> time
> not only had the suet cake been pulled up onto the roof and devoured,

but

> the humming-bird feeder had been pulled down and broken.  It's just
> depressing that I can't seem to keep ahead of the damage.
> I am really a nature-lover, but there has to be a place for me in the
> environment, too, and it seems harder and harder to maintain it.
> Auralie
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/3/2009 6:12:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> kmrsy@comcast.net writes:
>
> Auralie, I am sorry for "scolding" you, but that was not my intention.

I

> try to show different points of view when I write.  I try to suggest
> alternative ideas and include reasons why they might be employed.

Although

> I do notice that I sometimes take a negative approach to many things in
> life, I usually try to take the half FULL glass approach when it comes

to

> gardening.  It is my refuge, so when adverse conditions arise, I look

for a
> silver lining. I enjoy any bit of wildlife that enters my sanctum, > even > when they cause me trouble, because I know they have few other places > to 
> turn.  I do know you have a much more difficult wildlife situation than

I

> do, but it sounds similar to what Marge endured, and she found ways to

live

> with it and lift her spirits.  Rather than scolding you, I wanted to

help

> you look at things the way she did.
>
> Regardless of my intentions, it is clear that I've offended you and I > do 
> apologize for that.
>
> I have a lot of chippies myself this year but Seamus seems to be > helping 
> with that; I find a chipmunk tail here and there every once in awhile.

The

> tail must have less flavor than the rest of it.  But still I have

certain

> areas that they destroy. The main spot is in a raised bed that is built

up

> with rocks.  I kept plugging the holes with soil, mulch, rocks, but

they'd

> always find a way through it or around it.  A few weeks ago I found the
> cure. Scoopable litter patties. I scooped the round moistened pattie > of > litter from the pan, dropped it into a baggie and went out to that > spot. 
> Turned the bag inside out, plopping the pattie over the hole.  I nudged
> another into the rock entryway. The chippies haven't gone near that > bed 
> ever since.  I froze a pattie to take to a friend to try as she has a
> terrible time with them.  If it works for her, I may have to start up a
> little side  business.  Although I'm not sure if I can get my guys to
> increase production by much.
>
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Kemp TX
zone 8A

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