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Re: Re: chat messages

Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has had
glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the passage of
time.  Now the vet said it is a glaucoma.  Guess  I just didn't understand
the disease.  The whole thing has me pretty scared. What if I don't notice
the tilt of the cornea shift forward?  An eye "blowing out" on the poor
little guy sounds frightening to me.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> Kitty:  Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is getting?
Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt?  Poor baby!
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> That's sad, Melody. I had a similar situation with a German Shepherd
> years<br>ago, though he never hurt the cats. I had to put him down and
> it was so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age, so I
> expect they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less in
> stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem. Braveheart
> has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so cloudy I figured he
> could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got his flea shot and the vet
> noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted back. He said I should watch to be
> sure it doesn't tilt forward<br>because the eye could blow if it did.
> Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
> "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats came to us perfectly normal and healthy
> as kittens. We had an<br>> aging dog that objected to sharing his food
> with them and they both<br>> walked up to him when he was eating and he
> grabbed them by the head and<br>> flung them across the kitchen. Poor
> Miko (the himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof of his
> mouth for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing our poor
> dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this dog
> pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>> twitch.
> At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year later,<br>> with
> Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing happened, we had<br>>
> the dog put down. Turned out every one of his litter mates had been
> put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted in unprovoked aggression
> and the vet<br>> thinks this is what happened with him. Almost killed me
> to put that dog<br>> to sleep but I couldn't bear the thought of this
> great big gentle dog<br>> whom we loved so much turning into a monster
> and being left with the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or something.
> Funny thing is, every dog<br>> we've had since we've been looking for
> him...fo
> und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too. Maybe we're just
> cursed when it comes to big<br>> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA
> (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02, Kitty <
> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun
> 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages<br>><br>>
> That's sad, but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a
> problem;<br>> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to take on
> such cats. They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you, but I bet
> they have developed<br>> some trust in you.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----
> Original Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody"
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> messages<br><br><br>> I agree, Kitty,<br>> that for the most part,
> animals seem to sense when you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but this
> poor cat of mine was brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>> and he's
> not the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>>
> mean...but we love him anyway. His "sister" cat has the same<br>><br>>
> problem...brain damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow
> mentally<br>> and<br>> she has some peripheral vision problems from the
> temporary<br>> blindness she<br>> suffered with her
> injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The
> most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the mysterious."<br>>
> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 06/01,<br>> Kitty <
> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>>
> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 1
> Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see that<br>> one
> thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have several cats over the
> years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that somehow<br>they un
> de
> rstand that when I'm doing<br>> something they<br>> don't like to them
> or<br>trying to aid them when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>> they
> trust me. They bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel themselves<br>>
> because they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this for a
> good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>> to<br>believe that
> Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original Message
> ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:45
> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>> messages<br><br><br>>
> Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and snarls:<br>> I have
> a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate being<br>>
> brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels like we've
> crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the little bit of
> grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to keep<br>> up with it as
> best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once every year or so we take<br>>
> him to the vet and have<br>> him shaved<br>> down to remove the twisted,
> snarled<br>> hair. Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly and in
> much better condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over again.<br>> Poor
> guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads to<br>>
> another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The
> most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience is<br>> the
> mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri
> 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net >
> wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>>
> L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:
> Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT]
> chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I got behind with
> chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and even though I'm
> trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth every night<br>> now,
> I still have almost 1800<br>unread in<br>><br>> my chat
> folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several birthdays, and a<br>> whole<br>>
> thread on cicadas, which are<br>on<br>> the increas<br>><br>><br>> e
> here, and all kinds of other good stuff. Congrats on<br>><br>><br>>
> the<br>successful plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to the<br>>
> other<br>> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the Short
> One,<br>> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and tagging
> after<br>> my<br>grandfather<br>> "helping" him with<br>> yardwork and
> gardening,<br>> he nicknamed me<br>> "kid"<br>and I loved it. My<br>>
> grandmother,<br>> however, did not, and<br>> after a couple
> days,<br>that was<br>> that.<br>> So I think short one is<br>> great.
> And I'm glad her arm<br>><br>> is<br>better.<br><br>One of these
> days<br>> I'll get current. In the<<br>><br>> br<br>> >> meantime, I
> still have about 20<br>plants<br>> on the front porch and<br>> 7
> yards<br>> of mulch in the driveway.<br>> Weather<br>this weekend<br>>
> looks wonderful so I'm<br>> hoping to get some<br>> gardening done<br>>
> in<br>between other commitments.<br>> Anybody have a good<br>> trick
> for<br>> getting snarls out<br>of long cat fur when<br>> the cat
> will<br>> only<br>> rarely let herself be caught? She's<br>an indoor
> cat<br>> but she's<br>><br>> psychic.<br><br>And boy do I relate to the
> annoyance with job<br>><br>><br>> scenario.<br><br>Libby<br>Maryland
> zone 6<br><br><br><br>-----<br>><br>> Original<br>> Message -----
> <br>From: "Kitty"<br>><br>> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>To:<br>>
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Friday,<br>> May 28, 2004 10:54
> AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] Plant<br>> disaster/ups<br>> versus
> usps<br><br><br>> >archives<br>> show over<br>> 1700<br>> >
> messages<br>> this month<br>><br>> I thought we were<br>><br>> pretty
> chatty. Still, that's<br>> a lot better than what AHS<br>><br>> was<br>>
> allowing us when the list was<br>> with them.<br>><br>> Kitty<br>><br>>
> -----<br>> Original Message ----- <br>><br>> From:<br>> "Donna"
> <justme@prairieinet.net><br>><br>> To:<br>><br>>
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>
>  S
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