Re: Re: chat messages

> ...Maybe I should do some more googling....
So I did....
http://www.brilliantvision.com/gla4.htm

I think this is a good illustration of glaucoma, nice and simple.
The angle between the iris and the cornea narrows or closes in closed-angle
glaucoma.  In Braveheart's situation, it sounds more like open-angle
glaucoma.
Still it seems like he may need treatment of some sort in the near future.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages


> Jim, thanks for the explanation.  I'm not too hip to discussing medical
> stuff and I did confuse cataracts with glaucoma.  To me it's an eye
problem
> and beyond that I've never gone deeply into it so long as the vet says
it's
> cool.  But yes, he has had cataracts in the past.  The glaucoma is new, I
> believe.  Maybe I should do some more googling....
>
> Kitty
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
>
>
> > I've got glaucoma. It's not all that rare among personages of an age I
> > have grudgingly reached. Even if I skip the drops--which I usually do
> > on weekends, as well as skipping all the other pills that modify my
> > heart rate, bowel movements, and general deportment--I don't go blind.
> > And so far, I've noticed no change in visual acuity. As far as I know,
> > cloudiness of the cornea equals cataracts, not glaucoma. I've had that,
> > too. One of the great disadvantages of living in Florida is that the
> > brightness of the sun advances the formation of cataracts. But lasers
> > zap them out and ophalmalagists replace the corneas with plastic
> > implants.
> >
> > All this brings to mind that Kenneth Fearing wrote a short story for [I
> > think] the first issue of "Discovery" magazine [which was really a
> > Bantam paperback book and the same issue published William Styron's
> > "Long March"] about a society in which humans were having various body
> > parts replaced with plastic stuff. As I recall, a chic young woman had
> > the pinky of her left hand replaced with a cigarette lighter.
> >
> > I can't be the only one old enough to remember Fearing, Discovery, and
> > this story. Can I? Yeah, maybe. But Styron? Sophie's Choice?
> >
> >
> > On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 05:27 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >
> > > Pam,
> > > I did just a little googling and found, "Glaucoma doesn't usually
> > > cause eye
> > > pain unless you have narrow angles. Persons with narrow angles may
> > > experience a deep, boring pain that can become an emergency if the
> > > fluid
> > > can't filter out of your eye."
> > >
> > > This must be what the Vet was talking about.  He said the cat, all
this
> > > time, was not excperiencing pain.  He pointed out the tilting back as
> > > not
> > > being a problem, nor painful - I'm guessing because of the angle.  He
> > > said
> > > if it tilts forward, there would be a problem - I'm guessing that
> > > would be a
> > > narrower angle, causing the above mentioned fluid filter problem - -
> > > which
> > > is what he meant by the eye could blow.
> > >
> > > Anyway, even if he is safe for now, I worry that if the cornea is now
> > > tilting, even in a not-so-bad way, it is that much easier for it to
> > > tilt the
> > > wrong way as well.  I'm going to have to be more vigilant and check
> > > his eye
> > > every day for changes.  I may have to plan on spending some $$$ here.
> > > Last
> > > week's bill was over $300 and probably another $80-100 next month.
> > > Not easy
> > > on unemployment, though I did plan for it.
> > >
> > > Kitty
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:50 PM
> > > Subject: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
> > >
> > >
> > >> Really? Hmmm. I would think the pressure would be painful. Oh GOODY -
> > >> more thunder and another thunderstorm/wind/hail warning. Golly
> > >> gee-willikers I just can't wait for another fun filled evening.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Pam Evans
> > >> Kemp, TX
> > >> zone 8A
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Kitty
> > >> Sent: 6/7/2004 12:55:40 PM
> > >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> > >>
> > >>> His opinion has always been that it doesn't seem to bother the cat,
> > >>> they
> > >>
> > >>> live a fine life without tinkering with it (his other eye is fine).
> > > Doesn't
> > >>
> > >>> think it warrants the expense.  However, I have to go back next
month
> > > for
> > >>
> > >>> Slugger's booster shots and Bartonalosis test, so I will discuss
> > >>
> > >>> Braveheart's eye problem further with him then.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> Time really flies.  I think I mentioned my 5 boys range from 3 to 9
> > >>> yrs.
> > > Dr
> > >>
> > >>> says Slugger is barely 3.  But I just checked my files and Jack is
12
> > > yrs -
> > >>
> > >>> that's supposedly 81 in human years.  My guess on Braveheart is 10
> > >>> yrs.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> Kitty
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >>> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> > >>
> > >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>
> > >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:00 PM
> > >>
> > >>> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>>> that is frightening, they can treat glaucoma in people, why not
> > > kitties??
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>> Pam Evans
> > >>
> > >>>> Kemp, TX
> > >>
> > >>>> zone 8A
> > >>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >>>> From: Kitty
> > >>
> > >>>> Sent: 6/7/2004 11:29:05 AM
> > >>
> > >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >>
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has
> > >>>>> had
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the
> > >>>>> passage
> > > of
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> time.  Now the vet said it is a glaucoma.  Guess  I just didn't
> > >>
> > >>> understand
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> the disease.  The whole thing has me pretty scared. What if I
don't
> > >>
> > >>> notice
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> the tilt of the cornea shift forward?  An eye "blowing out" on the
> > > poor
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> little guy sounds frightening to me.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> Kitty
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:15 AM
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Kitty:  Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is
> > >>
> > >>> getting?
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>> Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt?  Poor baby!
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> --Albert Einstein
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>  --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> That's sad, Melody. I had a similar situation with a German
> > > Shepherd
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> years<br>ago, though he never hurt the cats. I had to put him
down
> > > and
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> it was so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age, so
> > > I
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> expect they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less in
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem.
> > > Braveheart
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so cloudy I
> > > figured
> > >>
> > >>> he
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got his flea shot and
> > > the
> > >>
> > >>> vet
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted back. He said I should watch
> > > to
> > >>
> > >>> be
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> sure it doesn't tilt forward<br>because the eye could blow if it
> > > did.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats came to us perfectly normal and
> > >>
> > >>> healthy
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> as kittens. We had an<br>> aging dog that objected to sharing his
> > > food
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> with them and they both<br>> walked up to him when he was eating
> > > and
> > >>
> > >>> he
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> grabbed them by the head and<br>> flung them across the kitchen.
> > > Poor
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Miko (the himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof of
> > > his
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> mouth for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing
our
> > >>
> > >>> poor
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this
dog
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>>
> > > twitch.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year
> > > later,<br>>
> > >>
> > >>> with
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing happened, we
> > >>
> > >>> had<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> the dog put down. Turned out every one of his litter mates had
> > > been
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted in unprovoked
> > > aggression
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> and the vet<br>> thinks this is what happened with him. Almost
> > > killed
> > >>
> > >>> me
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> to put that dog<br>> to sleep but I couldn't bear the thought of
> > > this
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> great big gentle dog<br>> whom we loved so much turning into a
> > > monster
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> and being left with the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or
> > > something.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Funny thing is, every dog<br>> we've had since we've been looking
> > > for
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> him...fo
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too. Maybe we're
> > > just
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> cursed when it comes to big<br>> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>>
> > > Melody,
> > >>
> > >>> IA
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is
> > > the
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02,
> > > Kitty
> > >>
> > >>> <
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed, 2
> > > Jun
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> > >>
> > >>> messages<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> That's sad, but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> problem;<br>> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to take
> > > on
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> such cats. They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you, but
> > > I
> > >>
> > >>> bet
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> they have developed<br>> some trust in you.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Original Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody"
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT]
> > > chat
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> messages<br><br><br>> I agree, Kitty,<br>> that for the most
part,
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> animals seem to sense when you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but
> > > this
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> poor cat of mine was brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>> and
> > > he's
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> not the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> mean...but we love him anyway. His "sister" cat has the
> > > same<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> problem...brain damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> mentally<br>> and<br>> she has some peripheral vision problems
> > > from
> > >>
> > >>> the
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> temporary<br>> blindness she<br>> suffered with her
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> > > "The
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the
> > > mysterious."<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 06/01,<br>> Kitty <
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 1
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see that<br>>
> > > one
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have several cats
> > > over
> > >>
> > >>> the
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that somehow<br>they un
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> de
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> rstand that when I'm doing<br>> something they<br>> don't like to
> > > them
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> or<br>trying to aid them when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>>
> > > they
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> trust me. They bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel
> > >>
> > >>> themselves<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> because they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this for
a
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>>
> > > to<br>believe
> > >>
> > >>> that
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original
> > > Message
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004
> > > 3:45
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>>
messages<br><br><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and snarls:<br>>
> > > I
> > >>
> > >>> have
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate
> > > being<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels like we've
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the little
bit
> > > of
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to keep<br>> up with
> > > it
> > >>
> > >>> as
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once every year or so we
> > >>
> > >>> take<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> him to the vet and have<br>> him shaved<br>> down to remove the
> > >>
> > >>> twisted,
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> snarled<br>> hair. Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly
and
> > > in
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> much better condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over
> > > again.<br>>
> > >>
> > >>> Poor
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads
> > >>
> > >>> to<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> > > "The
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience is<br>> the
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net >
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> > > Date:
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re: Re:
> > > [CHAT]
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I got
> > > behind
> > >>
> > >>> with
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and even though
I'm
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth every
> > > night<br>>
> > >>
> > >>> now,
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> I still have almost 1800<br>unread in<br>><br>> my chat
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several birthdays, and a<br>>
> > >>
> > >>> whole<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> thread on cicadas, which are<br>on<br>> the
increas<br>><br>><br>>
> > > e
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> here, and all kinds of other good stuff. Congrats
> > > on<br>><br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> the<br>successful plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to
> > > the<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> other<br>> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the
Short
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> One,<br>> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and tagging
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> after<br>> my<br>grandfather<br>> "helping" him with<br>>
yardwork
> > > and
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> gardening,<br>> he nicknamed me<br>> "kid"<br>and I loved it.
> > > My<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> grandmother,<br>> however, did not, and<br>> after a couple
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> days,<br>that was<br>> that.<br>> So I think short one is<br>>
> > > great.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> And I'm glad her arm<br>><br>> is<br>better.<br><br>One of these
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> days<br>> I'll get current. In the<<br>><br>> br<br>> >>
meantime,
> > > I
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> still have about 20<br>plants<br>> on the front porch and<br>> 7
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> yards<br>> of mulch in the driveway.<br>> Weather<br>this
> > > weekend<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> looks wonderful so I'm<br>> hoping to get some<br>> gardening
> > >>
> > >>> done<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> in<br>between other commitments.<br>> Anybody have a good<br>>
> > > trick
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> for<br>> getting snarls out<br>of long cat fur when<br>> the cat
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> will<br>> only<br>> rarely let herself be caught? She's<br>an
> > > indoor
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> cat<br>> but she's<br>><br>> psychic.<br><br>And boy do I relate
> > > to
> > >>
> > >>> the
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> annoyance with job<br>><br>><br>>
> > > scenario.<br><br>Libby<br>Maryland
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> zone 6<br><br><br><br>-----<br>><br>> Original<br>> Message -----
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <br>From: "Kitty"<br>><br>> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>To:<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Friday,<br>> May 28, 2004
> > > 10:54
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] Plant<br>> disaster/ups<br>>
> > > versus
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> usps<br><br><br>> >archives<br>> show over<br>> 1700<br>> >
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> messages<br>> this month<br>><br>> I thought we were<br>><br>>
> > > pretty
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> chatty. Still, that's<br>> a lot better than what AHS<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>> was<br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> allowing us when the list was<br>> with them.<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>> Kitty<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> -----<br>> Original Message ----- <br>><br>> From:<br>> "Donna"
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <justme@prairieinet.net><br>><br>> To:<br>><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>  S
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>
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