Re: OT - This is serious

If it must, it must. Que sera, que, sera

On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 07:39 PM, Kitty wrote:

And will this discussion continue on through next Tuesday? Chuckle.
Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - This is serious


I guess that's part of what I had in mind. All that religious stuff
turns me off, like it does when I go to  ECHO. But his work to really
make a change in the most impoverished parts of the universe are very
exemplary. And, for whatever reason he's supporting it, I am too.


On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 09:46 PM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:

Did you see the special on him on PBS? Very interesting. The program
covered his good and bad points...and how he got in trouble
politically.
The second part of the program covered what he has accomplished since
leaving the office. I was very impressed...one of the few who
actually did
something after retirement. I know it is a hard and stressful job but
there is life after it.

Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN




[Original Message]
From: james singer <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 06/17/2004 3:22:50 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - This is serious

Hi, Verona. Meant to add a comment after your post but forgot [senior
moment]. Jimmy Carter was a terrible president. But, unlike the
current
one, he was a very decent human being who did not continually lie to
cover his bad decisions.


On Saturday, June 12, 2004, at 01:23 PM, Verona Dunn wrote:

Fellow Gardeners, Please let's stick to gardening and remain friends.
I
just happen to be republican, but I shook hands with Jimmy Carter
because he
was the president and deserved respect. There's only been 43!
Verona



----- Original Message -----
From: <EvaTEsq@aol.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:58 PM
Subject: [CHAT] OT - This is serious


Ok guys, now this is serious stuff.

A lawyer of the Defense Department, William J. Haynes II, who
authored a
memo
concluding that the President wasn't bound by laws prohibiting
torture and
that government agents who might torture prisoners at his direction
could
not 
be
prosecuted by the Justice Department, has been nominated by Bush
for a
LIFETIME APPOINTMENT as a FEDERAL JUDGE.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0607-01.htm

I think you'll agree that anyone reaching that conclusion, or even
making
an 
attempt to craft such an argument, has no business being a Federal
Judge
for
life. Please scroll down to the website below and sign the petition
blocking
this appointment.

Thanks!

Eva
Long Island, NY
Zone 6/7

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Dear Friend,
I just signed on to a petition with People For the American Way,
asking
President George W. Bush to withdraw his nomination of William
Haynes
to a
lifetime
seat on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. William Haynes is none
other
than
the General Counsel for the Department of Defense b the lawyer who
helped
design the administrationbs detention and enemy combatant policies.
Do you want such a person deciding what is constitutional as a
federal
judge? 
Join me in calling on Bush to withdraw this nomination. Putting a
lawyer
linked to the Abu Ghraib policies on the federal bench is so
outrageous,
Bush 
needs to hear a loud and clear message on this one!
Go here and sign now:
http://www.pfaw.org/go/william_haynes/


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