Re: Re: Re: Air Layering
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
- From: &* <g*@academicplanet.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:01:53 -0500
Hmm, my viburnums are more horizontal than vertical too. But do keep me posted please!
Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitty
Sent: 6/23/2004 10:39:42 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> I've got one started now, we'll see. The tricky part was that the limb used
> must be vertical and my Magnolia is virtually all horizontal. So I had to
> tie the limb up to make this work. This doesn't seem to be necessary in
> regular air layering.
>
> Kitty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
>
>
> > Has anyone tried those rooter pots? Do they work?
> >
> > Pam Evans
> > Kemp, TX
> > zone 8A
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kitty
> > Sent: 6/22/2004 7:49:40 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> >
> > > Libby,
> >
> > > I found this description w/ illustration:
> >
> > > http://www.texas-rose-rustlers.com/propagat.htm
> >
> > > In addition to the sphagnum-wrap air layering I was familiar with, they
> show
> >
> > > another method called the Tape Method. I found it very interesting and
> just
> >
> > > might try it.
> >
> > > And here's another one that covers several types of layering.
> >
> > > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-8701.html
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Kitty
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: "Libby Valentine" <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>
> >
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:35 PM
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Anybody care to do the 2 minute summary for those of us who are not
> plant
> >
> > > > propagators? (yet!)
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Thanks!
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Libby
> >
> > > > MD zone 6
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > From: "Donna" <justme@prairieinet.net>
> >
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:13 PM
> >
> > > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Air Layering
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Well Jim... now that is interesting!
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > You are saying that even after time in the ground, something that
> was
> >
> > > > > 'air layered' will never get a tap root? How in the world can they
> >
> > > > > survive for any length of time without one?
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > I have to admit I know nothing about air layering other than a 1/2
> hour
> >
> > > > > special that included some highlights among other things. Not enough
> >
> > > > > info to really understand the process or how it worked.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > I am majorly confused here. ... nothing new:)
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Donna
> >
> > > > > Hum... must of us got here.... like some of us didn't? LOL!
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > I've done some air layering, Jesse, but not a lot. It is the way
> most
> >
> > > > > > litchis, macadamia nuts, and rubber plants [Ficus elastica], and,
> I'm
> >
> > > > > > sure, many other plants are usually propagated. The Royal
> Horticulture
> >
> > > > > > Society's propagation book [AHS published it as "Plant
> Propagation"]
> >
> > > > > > has very good instructions in how to air layer stuff.
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > The one disadvantage to air layering [verses propagation by seed
> or by
> >
> > > > > > grafting scion wood onto a seedling] is that the air layered
> clones
> >
> > > > > > will not produce tap roots. Most of the commercial litchi orchards
> in
> >
> > > > > > south Florida were simply blown away by hurricane Andrew because
> the
> >
> > > > > > trees had no tap roots.
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > I think the general rule is that any plant that can be propagated
> by
> >
> > > > > > cuttings, can also be air layered, but there are other plants--the
> >
> > > > > > afore-mentioned macadamias and rubber plants--that do not [or only
> >
> > > > > > rarely] respond as cuttings. Cuttings have the same no-tap-root
> >
> > > > > problem
> >
> > > > > > that air layers have but generally they are easier to propagate
> and
> >
> > > > > > require a whole lot less time to do so. I usually try cuttings
> first;
> >
> > > > > > then air layering; then seedling and grafting [provided, of
> course, I
> >
> > > > > > have seedlings and access to scion wood].
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Sometimes I do just seedlings. "Just seedlings" is always a crap
> >
> > > > > shoot,
> >
> > > > > > but sometimes it's fun to see what sexual reproduction has cooked
> up
> >
> > > > > > for you. I mean, hey, that's how most of us got here!
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
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