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RE: lefty's...calligraphy...OT

I use the old, old style pen and nibs that are interchangeable. They are
hard to find. There are still some companies out there that make them.
The last place I saw them for sale was a company called "Pen dragon".
The ones that I use were handed down from my teacher. There are two
people in Kansas City that still make the Spencerian pens...one is
called "Ziller of Kansas City" and a man named "Michael Sull". The gold
"ink" is not really ink...it is finely ground 14K gold dust mixed in
with a "gummy" base. After you paint it on and it dries...it has to be
burnished in order to shine. It truly is the "old world" way of doing
illumination. I don't know very many people who do it anymore. Doing
calligraphy on vellum is even MORE difficult because of the uneven
texture and there tend to be smooth and rough spots on it. (For the
younger ones on the list...vellum is sheep skin stretched so thin it
looks like paper...and if it ever gets wet...it will shrink) that is
what they

 used to use in the olden days.  I've used vellum and paper.  Paper is MUCH easier.

Bonnie & Bill Morgan <wmorgan972@ameritech.net> wrote:
Jesse, I think that is great, too! Knowing people from "far away"
appreciate you and your gifts as much as we do is something very special. I
used to do some calligraphy years ago and loved it, though I'm sure I am not
as steady handed as you from what I've seen from your packages! What tools
do you use, Jesse? In the past I've used Osmiroid fountain pens with
various nibs and Japanese water color brushes with equal success, but I
haven't seen a really good pen set with nibs lately and one of my girls gave
my Japanese Watercolor brushes a "hair cut" one day and I've not been able
to get any as good as the set I had. And gold edged? What did you use and
where did you get it? 

Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Jesse Bell
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:56 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] lefty's

Thanks Eva. Sometimes...I wonder if I was one of those monks or scribes
in a past life! LOL. From an early age I was totally jazzed about
penmanship and calligraphy. I would sit and practice my writing for
HOURS...and design different ways to write. Those fairytale books with
the huge, illuminated "O" on "once upon a time..."....I used to study
and copy the fancy letters. Must have gotten that from my grandfather
(Jesse) who was also an artist of some sort. The art of lettering (and
it is an art...even though most people don't think of it as that...but
hey, early cave dwellers drew on the wall to communicate...no alphabet
then) so next time you start to write...think about the beauty of the
written word. It's kind of cool.

EvaTEsq@aol.com wrote:
Wow, Jesse! I'm so impressed! I've seen some of your caligraphy on packages 
you have sent me. It is truly gorgeous!!!

Long Island, NY
Zone 6/7

In a message dated 6/25/2004 10:21:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
silverhawk@flash.net writes:
calligraphy, Spencerian and copperplate by an 80 year old master who
used to design the diplomas that hang on the walls (he did them by hand
and had them reproduced). When I do envelopes and such, I just doodle
and use crappy old calligraphy pens...but I have some artwork and
calligraphy (illumination with 14K gold on it) that I did when I worked
with him...and one of the pieces now hangs in Morocco...in the palace.
Kind of cool, huh? LOL (just some trivial info for ya'll)


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