Re: Buddleia ( was Russian sage - invasive?)

I think they're just weird, picky plants individually. How's that for an
explanation? I love them, wish I could get them to grow, but I'm tired of
running head first into that particular brick wall. I have plenty of other
walls to run into!


Andrea H
Beaufort, SC 


> [Original Message]
> From: Donna <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 6/1/2005 7:50:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Buddleia ( was Russian sage - invasive?)
>
> Try again Jim....
>
> heavy clay here with some additives, but no where near
> the 'sandy soil' thought pattern...
>
> Donna
>
> --- james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting, Barb. No idea, then, what it could be.
> > They are used in  
> > many situations here--sun, partial shade, with other
> > plants, by  
> > themselves, under irrigation, in xeriscape
> > plantings. The only common  
> > threads through those site--that I can see--are
> > sandy soil and  
> > temperature range, unless I'm missing something. By
> > sandy soil, I mean  
> > excellent drainage; not sure desert sandy soil meets
> > that description,  
> > so if they thrive at Boyce Thompson, drainage may
> > not be a factor.
> > 
> > On Jun 1, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Barbara Tandy wrote:
> > 
> > > Not so sure!  There is a huge Buddleia at the
> > Boyce Thompson Arboretum  
> > > near
> > > Superior AZ outside Phoenix --
> > > --Barb, Grass Valley CA
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Buddleia ( was Russian sage -
> > invasive?)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Buddleia do well here. So it must be dry heat
> > rather than humid heat
> > >> that they don't like.
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 1, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ
> > AFFTC/ITSR wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I have a couple buddleia but they don't seem to
> > like me that much. I
> > >>> always
> > >>> figured it was too hot and dry in the summer.
> > They grow, and bloom,
> > >>> but you
> > >>> would not call them lush. The blooms are maybe
> > half as big as I've
> > >>> seen in
> > >>> northern California where the summers aren't so
> > hot.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cyndi
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> > [o*@hort.net] On
> > >>> Behalf
> > >>> Of A A HODGES
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:55 PM
> > >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't think so Kitty. I have a friend that
> > grew one, of course I
> > >>> can't
> > >>> recall the cultivar now. It was a
> > silvery/lavender color. She grew it
> > >>> against the hottest, driest part of the house,
> > never watered it, and
> > >>> it was
> > >>> probably 8 feet tall when she moved. Bloomed
> > constantly. She's trying
> > >>> some
> > >>> at her new place which has the same type of dry
> > sandy soil as her old
> > >>> place
> > >>> so we'll see how it goes.
> > >>> A
> > >>>
> > >>> Andrea H
> > >>> Beaufort, SC
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> [Original Message]
> > >>>> From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing
> > Center
> > >>> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> > >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>>> Date: 6/1/2005 10:32:59 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Andrea, I wonder if your Buddleia problems have
> > to do with heat  
> > >>>> zones?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kitty
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
> > >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:33 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I gave up on it. My soil is too wet I guess.
> > Mine never did much of
> > >>>>> anything and then pooped out a couple of years
> > ago. Didn't feel  
> > >>>>> like
> > >>>>> messing with it again. Same with Buddleia. I
> > don't know HOW people
> > >>>>> get those things to do well. Not one single
> > plant that I've ever
> > >>>>> gotten, and there have been quite a few, have
> > made it through an
> > >>>>> entire season. I've tried them in different
> > types of soils, no
> > >>>>> water, lots of water, some water, no luck. And
> > at different houses,
> > >>>>> so I know it's not just this
> > >>>> yard.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Andrea H
> > >>>>> Beaufort, SC
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> [Original Message]
> > >>>>>> From: Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net>
> > >>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>>>>> Date: 5/31/2005 9:03:39 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I've had one since last summer, but it has
> > grown poorly (why I
> > >>>>>> have no
> > >>>>>> idea) and so no suckers or seedlings here.  I
> > will keep an eye on  
> > >>>>>> it
> > >>>>>> though, given your experience.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Theresa
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Anyone growing Russian sage (perovskia
> > atriplicifolia)?  I
> > >>>>>>> planted
> > >>> some
> > >>>>> last
> > >>>>>>> year in my dry garden and it did really
> > well. I noticed this year
> > >>> that
> > >>>>> there
> > >>>>>>> are suckers around the base of all 3 I
> > planted, and small
> > >>>>>>> seedlings
> > >>>>> about 3
> > >>>>>>> to 4 feet away from one of them. It's
> > supposed to spread to about
> > >>>>>>> 3'
> > >>>>> wide,
> > >>>>>>> but they are almost that big already and I
> > didn't see anything
> > >>>>>>> that indicates it is a pest. Now I'm
> > wondering what I've gotten
> > >>>>>>> into. Has
> > >>>>> anyone
> > >>>>>>> else had experience with it?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cyndi
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> >
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