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Re: today....Judy---

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  • Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---
  • From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center" 4042N15@nationalhearing.com
  • Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:15:58 -0600
  • References: <15360326.1118819588624.JavaMail.root@sniper2>

Melody, as a nurse I am sure you know better about such things than I do,
but I get pretty disgusted with people who don't cover their mouths when
they cough.  You are right - the germs go right to their hands and then they
spread the germs by touching things.  However, I can behave defensively
against such actions, but I cannot control what people spew into the air.
Plus, it's just plain disgusting.  And the elbow? yeah, try it.  Looks like
you're sniffing your armpit to see if your deodorant is working.  uh-uh.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---

> This is also the reason I have such a problem with the proliferation of
> antibacterial soaps and/or products with antibacterial agents embedded
> in them...by constant use of these antibacterial products we are
> actually weakening our immune systems, throwing out the good bacteria
> that protect us while not necessarily killing off the really bad
> bacteria that harm us. Just plain old soap and water for handwashing
> along with vigorous mechanical scrubbing when you wash is enough for
> most folks with healthy immune systems. Also, we really, really need to
> stop using our hands to cover our mouths and noses when we sneeze or
> cough...coughing/sneezing into the crook of your elbow or turning your
> head away from folks is much preferable...this way the bacteria do not
> end up on your hands where they are then passed on to everything and
> everyone you touch.
> Melody
> Hills, IA  zone 5
>  --- On Sun 06/12, Judy Browning < judybrowning@lewiston.com > wrote:
> From: Judy Browning [mailto: judybrowning@lewiston.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:39 -0000
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---
> Both actually. You can cause resistance in your own population, then
> pass it<br>along to someone else through casual contact. My hand to
> money, a doorknob,<br>or shopping cart to your hand for instance. An
> elderly lady I knew claimed<br>she and her husband never got colds.
> Their secret: Whenever returning home,<br>they immediately washed their
> hands. Didn't take off their coats or touch<br>anything inside until
> they washed their hands. If they had been shopping,<br>they washed again
> after putting their purchases away.<br>Our bodies are protected by skin
> that is very resistant to bacteria. Mucus<br>membranes in the eyes mouth
> & other orifices is not. Most infection enter<br>the body through a
> mucus membrane. Puncture wounds are dangerous because<br>they carry
> foreign material through the skin. Immune system tends to<br>incapsulate
> stuff like that, making a warm dark moist area for bacteria to<br>grow
> ie abcess.<br>Some of the more toxic antibiotics can kill all of your
> gut's
> flora,<br>beneficial & not. When you get diarrhea from an antibiotic,
> that's the<br>cause. The good bugs are gone too. Taking a little
> buttermilk or yogurt a<br>couple of hours after a dose can repopulate
> with a benefical lactobacillus.<br>I doubt you were totally sterile
> inside. But there was probably very little<br>left.<br>----- Original
> Message -----<br>From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44 AM<br>Subject:
> RE: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> So Judy-<br>><br>> You are
> saying it is within a person, rather than a NEW bacteria we
> have<br>to<br>> worry about?<br>><br>> I know a few years ago when my
> system was whacked and I was always ill,<br>they<br>> gave me an orange
> powder to mix with water. The nastiest stuff I ever<br>> tasted. I
> didn't believe it at the time, but they claimed this was
> going<br>to<br>> remove all bacteria and fungus from my system,
> unfortunately good and bad<br>> types. I did get
> better a week later, but still am not buying it did that.<br>><br>>
> Donna<br>><br>><br>> > Chris, this is a soapbox invitation I can't
> resist. Get ready<br>> > Resistant bacteria are getting more problematic
> each year. Part of the<br>> > problem is the widespread use of
> antibiotics! Especially with folks who<br>> > "save" a few pills from
> their prescription & self medicate the next<br>time.<br>> > 1st course
> of medication leaves a few of the most resistant germs, which<br>> >
> then are the ones to multiply. When they next get a cold & take the
> last<br>> > few, they expose more bacteria to the antibiotic without
> killing them<br>and<br>> > build even more resistance in the "normal"
> bacteria we all host.<br>> > I won't get started on physicians who
> prescribe antibiotics for viral<br>> > infections, talk about
> malpractice.<br>> > Then there is a woeful lack of handwashing in the
> general public and<br>most<br>> > professions.<br>> > OK getting down
> off the box.<br>> > too true
> about the tetanus injection. That was something the ER
> staff<br>made<br>> > sure of too.<br>> > Judy B<br>> > Z 6
> Idaho<br>><br>>
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