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Re: today....Judy---

Kitty: Most of these common bacteria and viruses need a human host to
proliferate...no human host, no life. Therefore, turning your head to
sneeze or cough actually reduces the chances that you will spread the
contaminant to another person. Although, I must say that one of my
favorite new products on the market are viricidal and bactericidal
kleenex...within 15 minutes of sneezing or coughing into one of these
tissues, the virus and bacteria have been killed. Now that is a smart
use of technology that doesn't involve weakening our own human immunity
to the bad bugs out there.

Hills, IA  zone 5

Work for the Lord:  the pay isn't much but the retirement is out of this world!

 --- On Wed 06/15, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center < 4042N15@nationalhearing.com > wrote:
From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center [mailto: 4042N15@nationalhearing.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:15:58 -0600
Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---

Melody, as a nurse I am sure you know better about such things than I
do,<br>but I get pretty disgusted with people who don't cover their
mouths when<br>they cough. You are right - the germs go right to their
hands and then they<br>spread the germs by touching things. However, I
can behave defensively<br>against such actions, but I cannot control
what people spew into the air.<br>Plus, it's just plain disgusting. And
the elbow? yeah, try it. Looks like<br>you're sniffing your armpit to
see if your deodorant is working. uh-uh.<br><br>Kitty<br>----- Original
Message ----- <br>From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:12
AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> This is also the
reason I have such a problem with the proliferation of<br>>
antibacterial soaps and/or products with antibacterial agents
embedded<br>> in them...by constant use of these antibacterial products
we are<br>> actually weakening

our immune systems, throwing out the good bacteria<br>> that protect us
while not necessarily killing off the really bad<br>> bacteria that harm
us. Just plain old soap and water for handwashing<br>> along with
vigorous mechanical scrubbing when you wash is enough for<br>> most
folks with healthy immune systems. Also, we really, really need to<br>>
stop using our hands to cover our mouths and noses when we sneeze
or<br>> cough...coughing/sneezing into the crook of your elbow or
turning your<br>> head away from folks is much preferable...this way the
bacteria do not<br>> end up on your hands where they are then passed on
to everything and<br>> everyone you touch.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Melody<br>> Hills, IA zone 5<br>><br>><br>><br>> --- On Sun 06/12, Judy
Browning < judybrowning@lewiston.com > wrote:<br>> From: Judy Browning
[mailto: judybrowning@lewiston.com]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:39 -0000<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT]

today....Judy---<br>><br>> Both actually. You can cause resistance in
your own population, then<br>> pass it<br>along to someone else through
casual contact. My hand to<br>> money, a doorknob,<br>or shopping cart
to your hand for instance. An<br>> elderly lady I knew claimed<br>she
and her husband never got colds.<br>> Their secret: Whenever returning
home,<br>they immediately washed their<br>> hands. Didn't take off their
coats or touch<br>anything inside until<br>> they washed their hands. If
they had been shopping,<br>they washed again<br>> after putting their
purchases away.<br>Our bodies are protected by skin<br>> that is very
resistant to bacteria. Mucus<br>membranes in the eyes mouth<br>> & other
orifices is not. Most infection enter<br>the body through a<br>> mucus
membrane. Puncture wounds are dangerous because<br>they carry<br>>
foreign material through the skin. Immune system tends
to<br>incapsulate<br>> stuff like that, making a warm dark moist area
for bacteria

to<br>grow<br>> ie abcess.<br>Some of the more toxic antibiotics can
kill all of your<br>> gut's<br>><br>> flora,<br>beneficial & not. When
you get diarrhea from an antibiotic,<br>> that's the<br>cause. The good
bugs are gone too. Taking a little<br>> buttermilk or yogurt a<br>couple
of hours after a dose can repopulate<br>> with a benefical
lactobacillus.<br>I doubt you were totally sterile<br>> inside. But
there was probably very little<br>left.<br>----- Original<br>> Message
-----<br>From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net><br>To:<br>>
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44
AM<br>Subject:<br>> RE: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> So
Judy-<br>><br>> You are<br>> saying it is within a person, rather than a
NEW bacteria we<br>> have<br>to<br>> worry about?<br>><br>> I know a few
years ago when my<br>> system was whacked and I was always
ill,<br>they<br>> gave me an orange<br>> powder to mix with water. The
nastiest stuff I ever<br>> tasted. I<br>> didn't

believe it at the time, but they claimed this was<br>> going<br>to<br>>
remove all bacteria and fungus from my system,<br>> unfortunately good
and bad<br>> types. I did get<br>><br>> better a week later, but still
am not buying it did that.<br>><br>><br>> Donna<br>><br>><br>> > Chris,
this is a soapbox invitation I can't<br>> resist. Get ready<br>> >
Resistant bacteria are getting more problematic<br>> each year. Part of
the<br>> > problem is the widespread use of<br>> antibiotics! Especially
with folks who<br>> > "save" a few pills from<br>> their prescription &
self medicate the next<br>time.<br>> > 1st course<br>> of medication
leaves a few of the most resistant germs, which<br>> ><br>> then are the
ones to multiply. When they next get a cold & take the<br>> last<br>> >
few, they expose more bacteria to the antibiotic without<br>> killing
them<br>and<br>> > build even more resistance in the "normal"<br>>
bacteria we all host.<br>> > I won't get started on physicians

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