Re: critters > fence ideas

I am thrilled for you Kitty!.... 

Just wondering how you are going to keep those rug rats from messing with those 4 posts till they set in....

Donna


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> Update!
> They surveyed the lot today and it turns out that my neighbor placed his 
> fence within about an inch of the property line, so the whole 80 inch wide 
> area between our fences that the kids are abusing is ALL MINE!  One 
> utility pole is completely on my property while the other is on the line. 
> I was trying to figure how to work my fence in alongside his 
> when...DUH...I don't need a 64 foot fence.  All I have to do is put an 80 
> inch wide fence at both ends and I'm done.  4 posts instead of 10. 2 
> panels instead of 8.  There's still the cost of the post-hole digger. $20 
> for a truck to get the materials home and $25 for the permit (and of 
> course the $225 for the survey) but it is coming out more reasonably than 
> I expected and won't take the whole weekend to build!
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zemuly@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
>
>
>> How lovely to live next to the "Planned Parenthood Poster Kids."  I can 
>> soooo identify with you.
>> zem
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
>>
>>
>>> Wow Kitty...that's one of the MANY reasons we live out in the country.
>>> You don't have to deal with neighbors like that. And kids will be kids,
>>> but parents need to teach them manners and boundaries as well. When I
>>> lived in K.C. I had a sidewalk in front of my house and then a green
>>> area of grass beyond that..until it hit the curb to the street. The
>>> sidewalk and that green strip supposedly was city property, but it was
>>> still your yard. People would walk their dogs, let them poop there, and
>>> continue walking. They never scooped up their animal's mess. Some of
>>> these dogs were BIG - a great dane, standard poodle, lab and airedale
>>> terrier. I had to mow that area and keep it nice and it just made me so
>>> MAD when they did that. I put a little sign out there that said "please
>>> scoop if your dog poops", they just knocked it down. Very frustrating.
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a James Bond type fence. One that will lower to the ground for
>>> the utility company, and one that will shoot water at the neighbors kids
>>> when they walk by!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>  So sorry about the babies Jesse.
>>> as for critters....
>>> My property had a chain link fence across the back west end that was 
>>> barely
>>> noticeable until several yrs ago the new neighbor limbed up all the huge
>>> pines I enjoyed as a 'borrowed' backdrop and installed a privacy fence. 
>>> The
>>> 2 fences, about 7ft apart due to easement allowance looked dumb so I 
>>> took
>>> mine down. Kids from the east started cutting through my garden to take 
>>> the
>>> easement behind the houses as a shortcut to the school bus stop. So I
>>> refenced, leaving a gap below for the cats to come and go.
>>>
>>> Now the kids are coming through from the north and south traveling 
>>> through
>>> the back of my yard as a shortcut. they drop trash, have dug holes, 
>>> buried
>>> something, have killed the groundcover, and congregate back there. I 
>>> don't
>>> want them there; I want my privacy. I fenced off both ends and they tore 
>>> it
>>> down and brought their moms over, one of which who puffed away profusely 
>>> on
>>> her cigarette, stinking up my yard while yelling at me that the "path"
>>> belongs to the city. the other mom yelled at me for a good 1/2 hr that 
>>> her
>>> kids have every right to walk through there, calling me a b**** at least 
>>> a
>>> dozen times. She also made note that I have no property rights because I
>>> don't have a "partner" and I am "old" and that my yard is an overgrown 
>>> trash
>>> heap. And she says that, oh no, she would never sue me if her kid got 
>>> hurt
>>> back there.
>>>
>>> So, I have to spend more money. The surveyor should be here within a 
>>> week
>>> to mark the exact line and a privacy fence is going up. I showed my old
>>> survey to the city planning office and she said I can build a fence up 
>>> to
>>> 7ft high on the property line. Since the neighbor has his very close to 
>>> the
>>> line it may pose a hindrence for the utility access. So depending on how
>>> close he is to the line I may ask if I can simply tie in to his fence, 
>>> but
>>> apparetnly he likes the kids and isn't a fan of mine so I doubt he'll 
>>> agree.
>>> If not and I build a fence, I'd like to engineer something sectionally
>>> removable to aid the utility people.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Geez critters are a lot easier to deal with. They came through again as 
>>> I
>>> was writing this.
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jesse Bell"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:55 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: critters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks. I'm such a sucker for critters. I love them all. (except snakes
>>>> and spiders, but they aren't really critters)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lynda Young wrote:
>>>> Oh, Jesse - I'm so sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Lynda
>>>> Zone 7 - West TN
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jesse Bell
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:29 AM
>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>> Subject: [CHAT] Re: critters
>>>>
>>>> I don't know!!! But it's not over yet.
>>>> My baby turkeys didn't make it. They are so hard to raise when they are
>>>> that little and have been under stress. I did everything I could
>>>> do.....sadness abounds today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bonnie Holmes wrote:
>>>> Why not?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>> From: Jesse Bell
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Date: 6/20/2007 4:56:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crab watch
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had a moose or a hedgehog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pam Evans wrote:
>>>>> oh what a riot and I would love to see a picture! Jesse dear, is there
>>>> any
>>>>> critter smaller than an elephant and larger than a fire ant that you
>>>> haven't
>>>>> had as a pet at some time in your life? You're so funny.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/20/07, Jesse Bell wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That's right! I forgot about that. I had several shells in my 
>>>>> > container
>>>>> > and it seemed like they played "musical shells" a lot. They would 
>>>>> > try
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > shells until they found just the right one. And when it left it's 
>>>>> > old
>>>>> > shell, one of the other ones would go try his shell on for size. Too
>>>>> > funny.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > james singer wrote:
>>>>> > Well, if it hasn't moved by morning, I'll go buy it a couple of
>>>>> > additional options. Thanks for the advice.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > We used to keep a variety of empty whelk shells available for them
>>>>> > > (had them in a touch tank at the Museum in Charleston) and they 
>>>>> > > would
>>>>> > > run around checking each on out before they chose. You might need 
>>>>> > > a
>>>>> > > couple more shells Jim. Those little guys can be picky sometimes!
>>>>> > > A
>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > To: "Garden Chat"
>>>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:22 AM
>>>>> > > Subject: [CHAT] Crab watch
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Ms Fatma is baby-sitting a hermit crab this summer. A week or so 
>>>>> > >> ago
>>>>> > >> we noticed that it seemed a bit large for its shell, so we 
>>>>> > >> purchased
>>>>> > >> a larger one at a local souvenir shop. For the first few days, it
>>>>> > >> dragged the new shell all around its tank--into its water bowl, 
>>>>> > >> into
>>>>> > >> its food bowl--like it was introducing a new chum to the
>>>>> > >> neighborhood. Well, last night, it parked next to the new shell,
>>>>> > >> opening to opening. We think, maybe, it's going to move into the
>>>>> > >> larger shell today or tonight.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Island Jim
>>>>> > >> Southwest Florida
>>>>> > >> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
>>>>> > >> Hardiness Zone 10
>>>>> > >> Heat Zone 10
>>>>> > >> Sunset Zone 25
>>>>> > >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>>>>> > >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
>>>>> > >>
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>>>>> > Island Jim
>>>>> > Southwest Florida
>>>>> > 27.1 N, 82.4 W
>>>>> > Hardiness Zone 10
>>>>> > Heat Zone 10
>>>>> > Sunset Zone 25
>>>>> > Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>>>>> > Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jesse R. Bell
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
>>>>> > I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
>>>>> > and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.
>>>>> > That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Pam Evans
>>>>> Kemp TX
>>>>> zone 8A
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>>>>> Jesse R. Bell
>>>>>
>>>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
>>>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
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>>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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>>>> Jesse R. Bell
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>>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
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>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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>>>> Jesse R. Bell
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>>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
>>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
>>>> and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.
>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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>>> Jesse R. Bell
>>>
>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
>>> and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.
>>> That's what's insane about it."  -  John Lennon
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