Of course that’s true Melody, but I have nothing to hide and it’s no ‘skin off my nose’ if they profit from it. I got what I wanted. Both companies I used also offered the opportunity to opt-out of certain info sharing. Their gain doesn’t really interest me. Kitty From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf Of Melody Hobert-Mellecker Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:36 PM To: gardenchat@hort.net Cc: Kitty Morrissy Subject: RE: [CHAT] Jesse Bell Now I am going to say this with the background of working for the past few years in the medical genetics division of a large academic medical institution:. The biggest benefits to these private genetics companies is NOT to the consumer, who generally gets nonspecific ancestry information and maybe some carrier status info as well as VUS (variants of uncertain significance) but rather to the for profit companies who get ownership of your DNA to use as they see fit. AND to sell to whomever they want for research and development of genetics tests that makes them HUGE profits. On Jun 10, 2017 20:22, "Catharine Carpenter" <1*@rewrite.hort.net> wrote: Interesting. My spouse, after having disappointing results from Ancestry (he is half asian), and Ancestry could only say that his ancestors came from an area stretching from Korea, Japan, China, and Vietnam, went with with 23 and me. He found that he was Japanese with a tiny bit of Korean. It all has to do with the gene pool that the organization uses a its base. Cathy On June 7, 2017 at 4:46 PM Kitty Morrissy <1*@rewrite.hort.net> wrote: Tricia, I had checked some sites that compared the DNA tests and found 23&Me to be the better (more accurate?) test. But I decided to use Ancestry because 23 didn’t differentiate between countries around England – their test considered Ireland to just be part of the British Isles. Since I knew myself to be ¾ Irish, that differentiation was important to me, so I did Ancestry. Ancestry not only showed me to be 84% Irish, but they narrowed it down to the same two provinces that at least 2 (possibly 3) of my grandparents came from. My 8% Pomeranian was a bit further east than I expected (grandfather from Bavaria), but it made sense. My other 8% was just a general region of Finland/Northwestern Russia. No other traces. They found a few cousins on my Pomeranian side and one on my Irish side. Because that last 8% was vague I decided to try the 23&Me test – they’re having a sale – to see if they have anything more to add. Kitty From: o*@hort.net [mailto:o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of Tricia Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 1:15 PM To: g*@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jesse Bell My husband sent in his parents to AncestryDNA. We have gotten the results but we're disappointed when compared to my brother had done 23&me. Have you gotten any results yet. My other brother did Heritage, but he has worked on genealogy with them and hoped that would help. On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:13 AM, Kitty Morrissy <1*@rewrite.hort.net> wrote:
HI Jesse, Don’t be sorry – if it hadn’t happened I never would have heard from you! I think you, Donna, and Tricia, must be related – all that energy! Speaking of related, I just did the Ancestry DNA test. Has anyone else ever done that? Kitty From: o*@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of Jesse Bell Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:57 AM To: g*@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jesse Bell Hi Kitty...and everybody! Sorry about the fake e-mail. I certainly didn't do it. Good to hear from you all! I've been working in my gardens a lot lately, it's good for my soul. I thought we're supposed to slow down when we get older? This is not happening for me! I'm busier than I've ever been! I now manage my mother's 24 rental units, have a full time job, a farm and an Etsy shop where I try to squeeze out art e dry now and then! On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM Kitty Morrissy <1*@rewrite.hort.net> wrote: Re Saruma, I found this quite interesting…the part about the anagram… “This plant is somewhat similar in foliage appearance to the wild gingers (Asarum) native to North America, Europe and Asia (Saruma is an anagram of Asarum), but differs by being slightly larger, more upright and bearing showy unconcealed flowers.” Auralie, Has it multiplied well for you? Kitty From: o*@hort.net [mailto:o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of Auralie Logan Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 3:30 PM To: g*@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jesse Bell
That's it! Thank you so much. It is a most satisfactory plant for me - don't know why I couldn't remember the name - old age I guess. In a message dated 6/3/2017 2:51:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 1*@rewrite.hort.net writes: RE: Could it be Saruma henryi
Chris, I sometimes miss your postings because of your reverse format. So I didn't see this at first. I knew my mention of Stylophorum couldn't be right (leaves wrong) but I just took a stab at it. The Saruma looks lovely; I can see why Auralie likes it. I'd like to try it myself sometime, though at his point, can't. I lost almost all of my shade last fall and I'm scrambling to protect what I have.
Kitty
-----Original Message----- From: o*@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of Christopher P. Lindsey Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:22 PM To: g*@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jesse Bell
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Auralie Logan" <5*@rewrite.hort.net> > To: g*@hort.net > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 7:38:37 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jesse Bell > > Hi. I'm still here but pretty tottery. Since my broken hip at > Christmas, I haven't been able to get down the hill to my garden. I > can see that things are blooming, especially the peonies, and masses > of wild dame's rocket, but I can't really do much about it. I have > hopes of a teenager who might be willing to help me plant.
Hi Auralie,
I'm sorry about your hip! I hope things get better for you and that teenager shows up.
> I am so glad to hear from all of you. I was so glad to hear that Gene > Bush is getting better. He sent me a plant many years ago that the > deer wouldn't like. It has spread and filled in the empty spaces in my > front bed, and bloomed so nicely this spring, but I can't for the life > of me remember what it was called. It is a perennial that grows about > two feet tall, has heart-shaped slightly fuzzy leaves, and small > bright yellow flowers.
Could it be Saruma henryi?
http://hort.li/1ISI
If so, I'm jealous. I tried growing it here, but it never seemed to thrive. I could never get more than a couple of years out of a plant.
Chris
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