Re: Hello/now vegetables

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• To: g*@hort.net
• Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
• From: "Jesse Bell" j*@hotmail.com
• Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:02:56 -0600

From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:56:01 -0600

You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to look
like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the rest
of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love a
successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed them
w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
themselves this week.

Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to wait
until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"

LOL LOL
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600

>Ya'll are cracking me up. I hate brussel sprouts too. My mother forced me
>to eat them once when I was about 6 years old. She NEVER did that
>again....caused I barfed all over the table. I could NOT stand the smell of
>them, much less the taste. Still don't like them. Nasty.
>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>Claremore, OK
>Zone 6
>
>
>
>>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
>>
>>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie! I like virtually all veggies
>>but those are the two that I just don't care for. Lima beans and
>>brussel sprouts. I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a visit and
>>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm sure
>>they're *gulp* better!
>>
>>DF
>>
>>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so many of
>>you
>> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
>> >
>> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and nutritious ways.
>> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
>>Brussels
>> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched in
>>boiling
>> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with a bit of
>> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
>> >
>> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit more time
>>to
>> >cut into bite-sized pieces. Heat a flat pan containing a small amount of
>> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven. Put the
>> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet potatoes in
>> >first. Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to coat with
>>the
>> >oil, as it is cut up. Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow peas, green
>> >beans, squash all are good roasted. I usually combine four or five
>>kinds,
>> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas. The whole process may take 20
>> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
>> >
>> >And then there are stir-fries. Almost any combination of vegetables with
>>or
>> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or large
>> >skillet. I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened with
>> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
>>conventional.
>> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to make
>> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
>> >
>> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still covered
>>with
>> >about six inches of hard-packed snow. At least I can dream. Fresh
>> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
>>appreciates
>> >them. Auralie
>> >
>> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy when
>> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared properly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a touch
>> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than 'more
>> >>or less edible'...they're durn good. About the only veg I boil is
>> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam them
>> >>too.
>> >>
>> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
>> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every veg....turning
>> >>most of them into inedible messes. Might also be they just didn't
>> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling. This practice still goes
>> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental cuisines
>> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me - and
>> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
>> >>
>> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' family....too bad
>> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if fresh,
>> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are sweet
>> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
>> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
>> >>
>> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
>> >>butter, salt and pepper...
>> >>
>> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> >>mtalt@hort.net
>> >>Editor: Gardening in Shade
>> >>-----------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> >>>
>> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion. aside
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>from a
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables as
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>near as
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a drizzle
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>of sweet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. all of
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>them,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence of
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>which
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>for the
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>picky folks that come here.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Donna
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
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