Re: Hello/now vegetables
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
- From: "Pamela J. Evans" g*@gbronline.com
- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:03:50 -0600
Yeah right Miss Thang. Like Shirley says darlin' - please get the
license number of that truck. I need to have it run over me a few times.
Though my back feels like it already did!!
LOL
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:39:34 -0600
>Well, I did look like road kill. And sorry Dave....I know Fred Sanford
>isn't exactly a vision...but neither am I after I've been in my garden all
>day long!!! :-)
>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>
>
>
>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:54:36 -0600
>>
>>Ha! David - trust me when I tell you - she is a vision. She made the
>>statement once that she looked like road kill one morning and our friend
>>Shirley quipped "if that's what road kill looks like, get the number of
>>the truck that hit her because I wanna look like road kill too!"
>>
>>LOL.
>>I'm the one who looks like Fred Sanford after pulling still more weeds bent
>>on world domination.
>>
>>
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:07:56 -0800
>>
>> >Well you certainly ruined my visualization of what you looked like.
>> > Thanks a lot!
>> >
>> >DF
>> >
>> >Jesse Bell wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oh man...me too...I was shuffling around like Fred Sanford yesterday
>> >> evening. I ate a bowl of cereal around 8:30....did not stop till
>> >> 7:00-ish....took a shower and my husband I went to eat a really nice
>> >> dinner and we crashed when we got home. We worked our butts off. The
>> >> weather was soooooooooooooooooo nice. I enjoyed it. But my back is
>> >> letting me know about it. Time for my good ole bath salts. And yes
>> >> Pam...I'm bringing more.
>> >>
>> >> Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>> >>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>> >>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:56:01 -0600
>> >>>
>> >>> You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
>> >>> weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
>> >>> hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to
>>look
>> >>> like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
>> >>> around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the
>>rest
>> >>> of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
>> >>> coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
>> >>> in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love
>>a
>> >>> successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed
>>them
>> >>> w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
>> >>> budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
>> >>> themselves this week.
>> >>>
>> >>> Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to
>>wait
>> >>> until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
>> >>>
>> >>> LOL LOL
>> >>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
>> >>>
>> >>> >Ya'll are cracking me up. I hate brussel sprouts too. My mother
>> >>> forced me
>> >>> >to eat them once when I was about 6 years old. She NEVER did that
>> >>> >again....caused I barfed all over the table. I could NOT stand the
>> >>> smell of
>> >>> >them, much less the taste. Still don't like them. Nasty.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >>> >Claremore, OK
>> >>> >Zone 6
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>> >>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>> >>> >>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie! I like virtually all
>> >>> veggies
>> >>> >>but those are the two that I just don't care for. Lima beans and
>> >>> >>brussel sprouts. I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a
>> >>> visit and
>> >>> >>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm
>> >>> sure
>> >>> >>they're *gulp* better!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>DF
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so
>> >>> many of
>> >>> >>you
>> >>> >> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and
>> >>> nutritious ways.
>> >>> >> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
>> >>> >>Brussels
>> >>> >> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched
>>in
>> >>> >>boiling
>> >>> >> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with
>> >>> a bit of
>> >>> >> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit
>> >>> more time
>> >>> >>to
>> >>> >> >cut into bite-sized pieces. Heat a flat pan containing a small
>> >>> amount of
>> >>> >> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.
>> >>> Put the
>> >>> >> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet
>> >>> potatoes in
>> >>> >> >first. Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to
>> >>> coat with
>> >>> >>the
>> >>> >> >oil, as it is cut up. Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow
>> >>> peas, green
>> >>> >> >beans, squash all are good roasted. I usually combine four or
>>five
>> >>> >>kinds,
>> >>> >> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas. The whole process may
>> >>> take 20
>> >>> >> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >And then there are stir-fries. Almost any combination of
>> >>> vegetables with
>> >>> >>or
>> >>> >> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or
>> >>> large
>> >>> >> >skillet. I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened
>>with
>> >>> >> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
>> >>> >>conventional.
>> >>> >> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to
>> >>> make
>> >>> >> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still
>> >>> covered
>> >>> >>with
>> >>> >> >about six inches of hard-packed snow. At least I can dream.
>>Fresh
>> >>> >> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
>> >>> >>appreciates
>> >>> >> >them. Auralie
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >>> >> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy
>> >>> when
>> >>> >> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared
>> >>> properly.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a
>> >>> touch
>> >>> >> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than
>>'more
>> >>> >> >>or less edible'...they're durn good. About the only veg I boil
>>is
>> >>> >> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam
>> >>> them
>> >>> >> >>too.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
>> >>> >> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every
>>veg....turning
>> >>> >> >>most of them into inedible messes. Might also be they just
>>didn't
>> >>> >> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling. This practice still
>> >>> goes
>> >>> >> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental
>>cuisines
>> >>> >> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me -
>> >>> and
>> >>> >> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death'
>> >>> family....too bad
>> >>> >> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if
>> >>> fresh,
>> >>> >> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are
>> >>> sweet
>> >>> >> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
>> >>> >> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
>> >>> >> >>butter, salt and pepper...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> >>> >> >>mtalt@hort.net
>> >>> >> >>Editor: Gardening in Shade
>> >>> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>----------
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion.
>>aside
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>from a
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables
>>as
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>near as
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a
>>drizzle
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>of sweet
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible.
>> >>> all of
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>them,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence
>>of
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>which
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>for the
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>>picky folks that come here.
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>Donna
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >
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