Re: OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one/drugs

Nora and all - 
just to clarify, *I* don't have cat scratch fever.  I might carry the
bacterium, don't know.  The cat has the bacterium for sure.  When did that
song come out anyway - was it the 80s?  

Kitty


> [Original Message]
> From: Ray & Nora Edwards <raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 3/30/2003 2:17:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one/drugs
>
>     With medicine it's definitely let the buyer beware. You can't just go
> along .
>     Pfizer won't sell the drugs to the vets probably because vet. supplies
> are usually cheaper . At least they were when I was treating my own horses
> and dogs. It is about money . ( Of course I must disclose that I am a
Pfizer
> stock holder.)
>     So you have cat scratch fever you say? Good health to both you and
your
> cat, may you both live long and prosper.
> Nora
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> To: "Agardenchat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
>
>
> > Nora,
> > Wow! Obviously, I haven't had very many prescriptions.  Any I have had
> have
> > always included  the required amount or specified a refill.
> > Especially in this case. The vet has always given me what I needed for
the
> > entire course of treatment.  so when I asked him about it this morning,
he
> > explained that 10 doses is usually sufficient.  21 doses is the
prescribed
> > amount to guarantee wiping out the bug.  However, Pfizer will not sell
the
> > drug via veterinary supply.  And the 22.5ml mix is the way it is sold
for
> > humans (cherry flavored, too - ugh said the cat!) So rather than make me
> > take two $62 packages when there's a good chance one will do the trick,
he
> > just gave me the one 12.5 dose pkg - but he still printed the regular 21
> > dose prescription on it.
> >
> > Hopefully I don't ever develop symptoms myself.  the vet said if I were
> > tested there's a good chance I actually have it and it doesn't bother
me -
> > just so long as I don't scratch someone (wink, wink!)The cat's test was
> > $30.  The test for me would be $233.
> >
> > Thanks again for the insight.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Ray & Nora Edwards <raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > > Date: 3/29/2003 2:18:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > >
> > > Hi Kitty,
> > >     I figured that and just wasn't clear . What I meant to say was
that
> > the
> > > bottles are not precise , the doses are not precise and frequently the
> > only
> > > thing that is close to precise is the script. I don't think they
figured
> > > that you would get all the doses you needed from that bottle . The
label
> > > only states what he ordered it doesn't say you can complete the dose
> with
> > > that bottle. You should see us try to count liquid narcotics. Makes
you
> > > wonder. I've been through this with my daughter trying to give
> antibiotics
> > > to the grand kids, rarely enough in the bottle. She started making a
> issue
> > > about it and suddenly she got enough to complete the whole course of
> > > treatment. I could tell a lot of pharmacy tales but I had better not
get
> > > started.
> > >
> > > Nora
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Ray & Nora Edwards" <raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > >
> > >
> > > > Nora,
> > > > It wasn't the difference betwen 12 and 12.5 that I was concerned
> about.
> > > > This syrup is so gooey, I figure the .5 is stuck to the sides of the
> > > > container.  My concern was that from this 22.5 ml bottle I was
> supposed
> > to
> > > > administer 21 of the 1.8 cc doses.  I'm concerned about the missing
> NINE
> > > > doses, not the half dose.  But thanks for the additional info.  He
> > doesn't
> > > > like the medicine, but it's actually easier to give than a pill.
> > > > Kitty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: Ray & Nora Edwards <raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net>
> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > Date: 3/28/2003 8:04:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh is of course right Kitty, but another factor is the %of
> > medication
> > > in
> > > > > the liquid dilutent and the amount lost. There is always loss with
> > > liquid
> > > > > medications. That's why 12 instead of 12.5. Every time you take a
> dose
> > > out
> > > > > of the bottle there is a slight loss . Measuring syrup is not a
> exact
> > > > thing
> > > > > , close but not exact.This assumes that all goes well and you
don't
> > > loose
> > > > > some struggling to get it given. If you have to fight your pet you
> may
> > > > only
> > > > > get ten doses per bottle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nora
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:47 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Josh,
> > > > > > Maybe it doesn't take a nurse, just an angel.  Thanks Josh. 
Now I
> > can
> > > > go
> > > > > > back and tell the vet to charge me more money because I need 9
> more
> > > > doses.
> > > > > > For this cat.  3 more to go.
> > > > > > Kitty
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > > From: Josh Haskell <haskell@ncweb.com>
> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > > > Date: 3/28/2003 3:49:01 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doen't take a nurse to answer this one.  Yes, generally ml.
and
> cc
> > > are
> > > > > > > interchangeable; one cubic centimeter is one one thousandth
of a
> > > liter
> > > > > (a
> > > > > > > cubic decimeter), almost.  But because a liter is defined as
the
> > > > volume
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > one kilogram of distilled water @ 4 degrees C, a millimeter
(one
> > > > > > thousandth
> > > > > > > of a liter) is actually 1.000027 cubic centimeters.  Close
> enough
> > > for
> > > > > most
> > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > Josh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [CHAT] OT - yo! Nurses! help on this one
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can someone help me with this?
> > > > > > > > The measurements, cc and ml, are apples and oranges.
> > > > > > > > ml measures capacity
> > > > > > > > cc measures volume
> > > > > > > > Yet they appear to be interchangeable.  Are they equivalent?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The prescription says:
> > > > > > > > bottle contains 22.5 ml
> > > > > > > > Give 1.8 cc every day for 21 days.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Except, if they are interchangeable, that's only 12.5 doses.
> > > > > > > > And I did only get 12 doses from the bottle.
> > > > > > > > Can someone explain?  And can you also explain why they
can't
> be
> > > > > > > consistent - ml or cc?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kitty
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
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