Re: It's over!/compost

Some pruning is science and some of it is art.
Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] It's over!/compost


> There's a UF hort professor, an arborist, who holds CE courses in
> pruning trees for landscape architects at public parks around the
> state. After a lecture, each student gets a tape of colored ribbon and
> goes into the park, picks a tree, and ties ribbon on the branches that
> he or she thinks should be pruned. The prof then critiques the choices
> and has the park maintenance crew prune the tree at his direction. I
> talked to two of our architects who recently took the course--they said
> no one got it right the first time.
>
> On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > It's still cold here but a bright day.  I like timely topics.  March is
> > pruning time for many things in my yard - maybe not this early in the
> > month,
> > but coming up soon.
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Z5
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] It's over!/compost
> >
> >
> >> Yesterday the president of our MG group, a retired professor in
> >> horticulture, invited us to his home for a pruning demonstration.  It
> >> was
> > so
> >> much fun, and I learned a whole lot.  It was also a great day to be
> > outside
> >> (low 60'2 and windy), but it was warm in the sun.
> >>
> >> I am one of those people who has to be constantly re-educated on
> >> pruning
> >> techniques. :-)
> >>  zem
> >> zone 7
> >> West TN
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:24 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] It's over!/compost
> >>
> >>
> >>> Zem,
> >>> Our MG presentations are all advertised as a list, no one talk
> > advertised
> >>> more than another.  I attended the 6:30 one tonight, the latest it
> >>> ever
> > is
> >>> and it was more sparse - maybe 20 and most of them MGs.  I knew the
> >>> scheduled speaker had bowed out at the last minute and the HortEd was
> >>> going
> >>> to take over his subject, so for me it was a triple attraction. 1) it
> > was
> >>> after work, so I could get there, 2) I did want to hear about
> >>> pruning,
> > and
> >>> 3) I'm well aware that the Hort Ed is a very good speaker, so it
> >>> would
> > be
> >>> entertaining.  However, most folks weren't aware of anything more
> >>> than
> >>> that
> >>> it was about pruning.  He has his own scheduled talk tomorrow that
> >>> I'll
> >>> also
> >>> attend.
> >>>
> >>> We try to select topics of interest, but some titles must not sound
> >>> interesting to the general population.  Did you think your Fri-Sat
> > topics
> >>> were of equal interest to those earlier in the week?  And I wondered
> >>> why
> >>> he
> >>> didn't have later presentations during the week for people who come
> > after
> >>> work, but he said people don't come later.  I noticed, being there
> >>> for
> > all
> >>> sessions on Friday, that the largest attendance was for the first
> >>> pres
> > at
> >>> noon and each one after had fewer. Was it the subject? Was it the
> >>> time
> > of
> >>> day?  Was it the type of people who come at certain times of day?  I
> > don't
> >>> know.  But I think daytime presentations draw people who have plenty
> >>> of
> >>> time
> >>> and wouldn't mind sitting down for awhile.  While weekenders and
> >>> evening
> >>> folks need to cram more into a few hours and spend it at the trade
> >>> show.
> >>>
> >>> You are right, the Hoosier ReLeaf site only deals withthr tree
> >>> project.
> > I
> >>> think he's just so busy he hasn't gotten the composting on the web.
> >>> He
> >>> has
> >>> made videos with  partners who do landscaping and they show how they
> >>> slavage
> >>> all the scrap from a wooded lot, save specific trees, AND rope off
> >>> the
> >>> area
> >>> for home building to prevent heavy equipment from compacting tree
> >>> roots.
> >>> They take all the scrap produced in building the home from the trees
> > they
> >>> remove to the drywall waste, compost it in 6-12 weeks and then
> >>> return it
> >>> to
> >>> the building site to spread and then sow grass.  He says grass grows
> >>> green,
> >>> fast, and klush in the compost.  He owns Ringgenberg's Garten Haus,
> >>> but
> > I
> >>> couldn't find anything on the web about it except that it's a state
> >>> IDEM
> >>> location.
> >>>
> >>> Kitty
> >>>
> >>> Kitty
> >>> neIN, Z5
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 7:22 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] It's over!/compost
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Kitty, that is wonderful news about your talk.  Our MGs worked at
> >>>> our
> >>>> Home
> >>> &
> >>>> Garden show last weekend.  I worked at the booth and had lots of
> >>>> visitors,
> >>>> but the speakers didn't have any audience on Friday and only a few
> > people
> >>> on
> >>>> Saturday.  Was  your talk heavily advertised?
> >>>>
> >>>> I went to Hoosier Releaf's website, and it didn't have any info on
> >>>> the
> >>>> compost project -- just planting trees. :-(
> >>>> zem
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Fort Wayne, IN" <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>> To: "chat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 5:27 PM
> >>>> Subject: [CHAT] It's over!/compost
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear Friends,
> >>>>> I just wanted to write and thank all of you for your support,
> >>> information,
> >>>>> and treasures some sent, to help me with my presentation at the
> >>>>> Home
> > &
> >>>>> Garden Show.  It went well.  I had an audience of 77; the MG who
> >>> assisted
> >>>>> me
> >>>>> stretched out my 60 booklet handouts by only giving one to couples.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> powerpoint presentation I had on a borrowed laptop connected to a
> >>> provided
> >>>>> projector and it all flowed seamlessly - except for the time I
> > dropped
> >>> the
> >>>>> microphone.  I was happy I had samples of materials and bulbs to
> >>>>> show
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> most of the other speakers simply relied on slides and I think some
> > of
> >>> the
> >>>>> attendees enjoyed the opportunity to actually see and touch the
> >>> materials.
> >>>>> Thank goodness it is over, though.  On to real gardening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The last presentation yesterday was on composting so I thought I'd
> > see
> >>> if
> >>>>> the speaker had anything new to say.  Well, it was nothing like
> >>>>> what
> > I
> >>>>> expected.  He is the president of Hoosier ReLeaf and he showed
> >>>>> videos
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> 38 acre composting site.  They compost absolutely everything -
> > drywall,
> >>>>> sawdust, manure, all building materials, leaves, etc.  He began
> >>>>> this
> > in
> >>>>> conjuction with a local construction company when Indiana was
> >>>>> pushing
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> reduce yardwaste going to landfills.  Then the state decided it
> > didn't
> >>>>> care,
> >>>>> so of course, the construction company didn't care either and
> >>>>> dumped
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> project.  This man, owner of a nursery, was able to scrape up
> >>>>> enough
> >>> money
> >>>>> to buy just one of the machines.  And now he does it himself.  It
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> soooooooooo amazing!  I haven't seen the website yet, but you might
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> look at it:
> >>>>> www.hoosierreleaf.org
> >>>>> He explained how, if McDonalds changed just their straws, he could
> >>> compost
> >>>>> all their waste.  If Pizza Hut changed just their pop lids, he
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> compost
> >>>>> everything.  But he can't get in to talk to the right people.  He
> > sells
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> compost for about $70 a ton.  He says they do the same thing in CA,
> > but
> >>>>> there they get $400 per ton.  When he worked with the county, he
> >>>>> was
> >>> able
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> do 26 times as much as he can on his own, but he still keeps 14
> >>>>> rows
> > of
> >>>>> compost going all the time.  Unfortunately, he said the state is
> > making
> >>>>> some
> >>>>> new zoning restrictions and they pay force him down to only one
> >>>>> row,
> >>> which
> >>>>> would put him out of business.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How can Indiana be so incredibly stupid?  Separating yardwaste
> >>>>> isn't
> >>>>> difficult and the benefits are from here to the moon.  Instead,
> >>> everything
> >>>>> goes to the dump.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>
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> Island Jim
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