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Re: Genus & Species

Thanks Kitty, very good explanations. The graft chimera is very
interesting. Great information. I've always been familiar with the listing
of variety, cultivar, or Magnolia X "Whatever" but this was a new discovery
for me, to see NO indication of where the plants came from. I guess I've
just not been paying very close attention when I'm drooling over the
pictures in catalogs. 

> [Original Message]
> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 3/11/2005 1:35:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Genus & Species
> Andrea,
> another thing...Sometimes you'll see xHeucherella and sometimes just
> Heucherella.  This is an intergeneric cross for which they crossed a
> Heuchera with a Tiarella, creating a xHeucherella.  The x belongs in front
> of the the new genus name (sometimes with a space as in "x H.") to
> it is an intergeneric hybrid.  However they've been making Heucherellas
> quite a while now, so they usually drop the x (screws up their
> alphabetizing)
> I'm sure you are familiar with addtional taxonomies like variety (var.),
> forma, (f.), and subspecies (ssp. or subsp.) but I recently came across a
> listing that was new to me. It is called a graft chimera and is designated
> with a plus sign in front of the genus name, as in :  +Laburnocytisus
> adamii.  A Parisian, J.L. Adam grafted Chamaecytisus purpureus (Purple
> Broom) onto Laburnum anagyroides (Golden Rain Tree).  He expected the
> flowers to be the pinkish purple of the Purple Broom, but they were
> both yellow and purple, a result of contributing factors from both the
> rootstock and the scion.  Over time these trees had not only the "hybrid"
> flowers but also flowers of both the rootstock and  scion began to appear
> along the tree's branches.
> The tree is an ammalgamation of both parents' genetic material, but
> actual fushion of the cells.  This is known as a graft chimera, defined
as a
> grafted plant that exhibits a rare phenomenon wherein the cells of the
> rootstock extend upward and into the scion while retaining their genetic
> identity.
> Kitty
> neIN, Z5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
> To: "gardenchat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:00 PM
> Subject: [CHAT] Genus & Species
> > I have a question. After all these years of gardening, studying, etc, I
> > was looking at the Wayside Gardens catalog for about the hundredth time
> > tonight. MANY of their plants are labeled with only the genus and then
> > the cultivar or hybrid name. From my early horticulture classes, if I
> > recall, most all plant are either genus and species, genus, species, and
> > cultivar, or genus X (meaning a cross, or hybrid, and the name).
> >
> >
> > SO, my question is, how can you tell what the species of these plants
> > are or what the crosses of hybrids are? I'm specifically referring to
> > Magnolias, although many of their plants were listed like this.
> >
> >
> > They have Magnolia 'Coral Lake', Magnolia 'Sunrise', Magnolia
> > 'Sunspire', (which I bought) but no indication of what "kind" they are.
> > Mine is deciduous, and most of these I'm sure are some cross of Magnolia
> > soulangeana. And, Coral Lake even has the hybridizer's name in the
> > description, but no reference to him in the plant name.
> >
> >
> > What am I missing? Why is there on the Genus, and the cultivar name? I
> feel sure I should know the answer to this, but I don't.
> >
> >
> > Andrea H
> >
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