Re: Garden Vision/ J. dibia

Well, I do, actually, but
 Often these plants are shunned, banished to a corner, forgotten, and
> > not maintained and they die out.

Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Garden Vision/ J. dibia


> I have a question. Why do you have to order what EVERYONE ELSE wants?
Can't
> you order just a few things that you think would be great additions to the
> display gardens, since you are the one doing a lot of the work?
> A
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 3/17/2005 11:10:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Garden Vision/ J. dibia
> >
> > My sentiments exactly, Gene.  But I have learned over the years not to
> push
> > plants on these gardeners.  Ricky sometimes has me order plants that he
> or I
> > have found that would be super additions to a garden, but that were not
> > requested by them.  We provide all sorts of catalogs and books for them
to
> > peruse and then they ask for Snow in Summer or something they saw in
> Better
> > Homes & Gardens.  So, to elevate the horticultural substance of our
> > plantings we add things like this.  When they arrive I turn them over to
> the
> > gardens, often with extra instructions, since they may not be familiar
> with
> > it.  Often these plants are shunned, banished to a corner, forgotten,
and
> > not maintained and they die out.  This has happened with every woodland
> > plant I've ordered for them that they didn't specifically ask for.
> >
> > When I asked her about the Jeffersonia this time, she said that
ephemerals
> > open too early so nobody sees them, so what's the point?  She doesn't
> > realize that people tour our gardens during all seasons. They cover the
> > whole garden in leaves and don't remove them until later than I think
they
> > should, so early bloomers might not get seen.   The few Trilliums and
> > primroses have just about died away, but a few Epimediums seem to be
> holding
> > their own, but just barely.  They dote on their ferns and hostas.
> >
> > I have a tough time not speaking my mind on the way some of these MGs
> manage
> > their gardens.  The folks in the Woodland Fen view their garden as a
shade
> > garden, not a woodland.  They trim the whole darn thing with Impatiens
> every
> > year (coleus in 2005) while plants like Yellow Waxbells (can't recall
bot
> > name), shunted to the edge, fry in the sun until they are enveloped by
> > Hibiscus moeschutos.  I finally got them to move YWB, but can't get them
> to
> > budge on ephemerals.  There are a lot of other nice plants in this
garden,
> > though, so it's not as bad as I make it sound; it's just that I think
they
> > could do a better job depicting a woodland garden.  Oh, and I did talk
> them
> > into trying some Goodyera this year.
> >
> > Then there's the Everlasting & Cutting garden - These folks just want a
> > pretty garden - who cares about cutting?  They request short little
border
> > plants and in recent years have just forgotten about everlastings
> entirely.
> > They want urns to grow impatiens and pansies in.  They just don't seem
to
> > get it.
> >
> > Sorry to go on and on, but I am so thrilled with my early spring flowers
> and
> > wish I could have more.  Sometimes ordering for the gardens is a way for
> me
> > to experience the plants without having to buy them myself.  When they
> don't
> > take care of them and we lose them, it just sort of sets me on edge.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Garden Vision/ J. dibia
> >
> >
> > > Hello Kitty,
> > >     I have had Jeffersonia dubia here in the garden on and off for
some
> > > years now. Truly one of the treasured ephemerals... and it is for me.
> Does
> > > not last much longer than diphylla. Don't want to pop your bubble,
> but....
> > > what is wrong with early dormancy?? Just place it with a plant that
does
> > Not
> > > go dormant early.  They are missing out on so many of the very early
> > > blooming plants for shade.
> > >     Gene E. Bush
> > > Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
> > > www.munchkinnursery.com
> > > genebush@munchkinnursery.com
> > > Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > > > Thanks for the link Jim.  Now I realllly want it.  J.diphylla has
all
> > > > sorts
> > > > of common names, but not so, J. dubia. Hmmmm..... I tried to get our
> > > > Woodland garden to put J. diphylla in, but they don't like
ephemerals
> > (go
> > > > figure!)  But since J. dubia is persistent, maybe they'd go for it.
> > > > Kitty
> > > > neIN, Z5
> > >
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