Re: Fuel surcharge on plant orders

Well that's stinking disappointing! Do let us know where you are though.
When do you actually leave Jim? What town is your sister in?


DF



----- Original Message ----
From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:17:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fuel surcharge on plant orders

Yeah, I suspect the main differences in gasoline prices are largely a  
function of state taxes--and states with better roads, such as  
California, have higher gasoline taxes.

About staying with friends... I expect Squinty and I will be on a  
beeline to cover the territory as quickly as possible and won't to  
indulge in the luxury of a relaxed journey, but we appreciate all the  
offers.


On Mar 16, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Zemuly Sanders wrote:

> All the more reason to stay with friends along the way.  Actually,  
> I've been paying about $3.00/gal here.
> zem
> zone 7
> West TN
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"  
> <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fuel surcharge on plant orders
>
>
>> Good grief. Well, the truck got reasonably good mileage last time I  
>> checked it--tonneau on the bed and no load--28 MPG. That would be  
>> about 125 gallons to get from here to there, so say, $450. Hmmm.  
>> Wonder how much the cap and the load will affect the mileage. Guess  
>> I'll find out soon enough.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2008, at 2:30 PM, David Franzman wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Jim but here it's almost $3.75.  Outrageous!
>>>
>>> As far as USPS having a fuel charge they don't need one. Last year  
>>> when
>>> they did their last increase their price for a five pound box to go  
>>> from
>>> Ca-Fl. went from $16-31 Priority Mail. Doubled! However for the same
>>> service with UPS or FedEx was even higher...around $45. That was one
>>> plant for me about 5 pounds. So, we had a $22 plant being sent to the
>>> east coast with $31 in postage you now have a $53 plant! By the way,  
>>>  for
>>> the size plant I grew my price was the best. There is still a guy in  
>>>  San
>>> Diego who sells a smaller plant than I do for around $30. This is  
>>> why I
>>> was able to sell out each year but to cover the cost of the propane  
>>> and
>>> electricity, fertilizer and chemicals (which have gone up as well)  
>>> the
>>> plant I sold for $22 would now have to be $32. Sorry, I just can't  
>>> see
>>> charging that much money for that fussy a plant even though they're
>>> gorgeous. Too much guilt associated with that.
>>>
>>>
>>> DF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:55:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fuel surcharge on plant orders
>>>
>>> You guys are making me feel really, really good about driving across
>>> the country. I may have to sell Squinty just to buy gas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Judy Browning wrote:
>>>
>>>> $3.33 here midweek. I filled my daughter's big old Chevy, $60. Ouch.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zemuly Sanders"
>>>> <zemuly@comcast.net>
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:41 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fuel surcharge on plant orders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't heard of any extra charges at the post office, either.  I
>>>>> must say I was appalled to read WFF would insist on a surcharge for
>>>>> an MG order. They are notoriously expensive, but I didn't realize
>>>>> they were that bad. BTW, I did get a "new" car -- a 2007 Toyota
>>>>> Yaris.  It's getting around 40 mpg, which is a lot better than the  
>>>>> 20
>>>>> mpg I got with the Xterra.  Also the 10 gallon gas tank makes a
>>>>> fill-up a little less traumatic. :o)
>>>>> zem
>>>>> zone 7
>>>>> West TN
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:44 AM
>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] Fuel surcharge on plant orders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've placed over 20 orders for plants this spring, mostly for MGs.
>>>>>> The MG orders have to be mailed in becuase they have to pay by
>>>>>> check, so where possible, I used their catalog order forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the catalog form for White Flower Farm, followed  
>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>> and double-checked my aritmetic.  The email confirmation came
>>>>>> yesterday showing I owed $2.50.  ??? I rechecked the copy I'd  
>>>>>> saved
>>>>>> of my order, then went online to see if anything was different,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it turns out that online they are passing on a $2.50 UPS fuel
>>>>>> surcharge.  I called and told her their was no mention of this in
>>>>>> the catalog and she replied that it occurred after the book went
>>>>>> out.  Right, I understand, but I don't think I can submit a  
>>>>>> request
>>>>>> for another $2.50 check. (oh, I could, but I don't WANT to)  She
>>>>>> didn't back down, said they HAD to pass on the charge.  I said,
>>>>>> puh-leeze - our plant total was $85, you are charging $8.00 for
>>>>>> fennel and single Maverick pelargoniums!, you can't absorb the
>>>>>> $2.50? She agreed but her hands were tied....then she said there  
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> a way to fix it.  She'd give us a $5.00 credit for "referring a
>>>>>> friend"; it was the only option she had.  So now we're getting  
>>>>>> $2.50
>>>>>> back.  Does this make a lot of sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I filled up yesterday at $3.29 gallon. That's nearly $50 for a  
>>>>>> tank
>>>>>> of gas. The price of cat litter is climbing fast, I assume because
>>>>>> it's so heavy to transport.  Target was discontinuing the Tidy Cat
>>>>>> line so I "scooped" up 4 pails at a nice discount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could understand smaller, privately owned nurseries passing on  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fuel surcharge, but the smaller ones I know of mostly use the post
>>>>>> office and so far I haven't heard of any surcharge at USPS.  I  
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> stamps are going up in May, but has anyone heard of other rate
>>>>>> increases or surcharges at the PO?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>> neIN, Zone 5
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