Re: stems and petioles
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- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:59:57 -0400
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That's different than a stem cutting. That's a leaf cutting and the rib, edge, and petiole all have meristematic tissue which for unknown (even to phd's) reasons can differentiate between making new roots and new shoots. African violets are the same way and of course the succulents that root if you look at them funny. So, that's my graduate explanation. ;-)
Glad to hear the Maple Leaf is doing well. I love them and I have one with your name on it when you get settled in your new place.
A----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] stems and petioles
Yes. Now explain to me why begonias will root anyplace along the central rib, the edge, or the stalk of the leaf. Please. Of related interest, a couple of years ago, a leaf got knocked off the maple-leaf begonia you sent to me, which is growing in a pot, and the leaf fell between two pavers in the front patio. There is now a sizable maple-leaf begonia growing there.On Mar 22, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Andrea Hodges wrote:The stem is what the leaf stalk (petiole) grows out of. Nodes are on the stem (think of when you do cuttings and you make sure a node is at the bottom to put in the soil) The nodes hold the meristematic tissue that allows new roots to form. The space between the nodes is called internodes and hold no meristematic tissue so that's why you have to make sure there's a node when making cuttings. Does that make sense?A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] My trip to Texassince obviously I haven't taken a horticulture class.... just what is the difference between a 'leafstalk' and a 'stem'?Who is embarrassed to say I have been growing celery for years and didn't know this!Donna Patricia <pdickson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:How fun and hard work at the same time! Really who knew it is the petioleof the celery that we eat. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So happy for you, Tricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Hodges" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:05 AM Subject: [CHAT] My trip to TexasTo answer a few questions- Melody-my degree is a non-thesis program so I did an oral defense ofbasically what I've learned. They got to ask me anything they wanted to. I think a thesis would have been easier to defend. And thanks much for yourkind words.Donna-The greenhouses were fantastic. They 8 of them-two were off limits as they are strictly for the maintenance crew for TTU. When I went down there one of my committee members happened to be working with some of her students so she gave me a whirlwind tour. One greenhouse holds all of the"mother plants" for their interiorscaping classes so it was all houseplant material. Everything was in truly lovely shape. I felt like I wanted to shop! The other held mother plants for the propagation classes and yetanother the experiments that the students were working on. There are classrooms between greenhouses complete with all new audio visualequipment. Then there is a lab where, for example on student had sets of onions growing in a chamber where they got more CO2 to see if they grewfaster than onion sets without them. So far, they were not, which is a mystery they are working to solve. The gardens were neat but of course pretty bare as yet.The campus is enormous. According to my advisor and several others it is the largest college campus in the U.S. with the exception of the Air ForceAcademy and that's only because they have their own runway.I spent a large amount of money on sweatshirts and t-shirts with the TTUlogo. LOL! Truly-if I had my choice I would have done the degree on campus. I feel like I missed out on a lot but I am glad I got theopportunity to go and see it all. I truly had a good time even with thestress of the defense. None of the trees or shrubs there are native Ifound out since Lubbock is located in short grass prairie land. Hard pan clay soil. Not what I would consider a gardening friendly environment butthere were many nice plantings around campus.I stayed with one of my class mates that I met online. She and her husband live literally only 10 minutes walking distance from the Plant and Soil Science building. They too were the nicest people. Older than me, so also non-traditional students. My class mate does her defense in July so shelearned a lot from my experience I think.Apparently it is tradition for the "defender" to provide refreshments for the committee. So, my advisor took me to the store and I bought bottledwater, veggies, fruit, and Mexican pastries (yum). One of my committeemember (the one from the greenhouse) pushed the veggie tray towards me and asked me what they all were. So then we got onto the subject of what parts of the vegetable we eat. She made me get up and draw a bunch of celery on the whiteboard. I had to tell her what part of the celery we eat. I said stem-I was WRONG! I finally figured out it was the petiole. Who knew? That was one of the easy questions of course. They kept me for about an hour and 45 minutes and then sent me out of the room. I only had to stand in the hall for a minute or so and then they called me back in and my advisorsaid Congratulations! So, of course they all hugged me and I wanted tofall in the floor just from the relief. My advisor asked me later if I got the point of bringing food. She laughed and told me the committee is sobusy eating that they don't have the focus to just hammer you with questions. Worked like a charm.So, what's next-I have to finish the two classes I'm in-Pesticides and my refresher plant propagation undergrad class. Then I get my diploma. And then I'm going to do what I said and read gardening magazines and trashy romance novels for at least a month. I'm done with school. done done done.So really I have no idea what's next. I'll keep you all posted!Thanks again for all of the support and congrats and kind words. It meansthe world to me! A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melody " To: Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [CHAT] over the milestoneA: You are an amazing inspiration...take time to savor your hard earnedvictory. I'm so proud of you...I know it's been a great deal of hardwork for you and this is a real cause for celebration. Do you mind if Iask what you wrote your thesis on? I'm afraid you've probably covered that at some time while I've been gone, but I really am interested in knowing. :-) Blessings in Christ's mercy, MelodyWork for the Lord: the pay isn't much but the retirement is out of thisworld! --- On Sun 03/16, Andrea Hodges < andreah@hargray.com > wrote: From: Andrea Hodges [mailto: andreah@hargray.com] To: gardenchat@hort.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:36:36 -0400 Subject: [CHAT] over the milestoneI DID IT!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!! It's over, finito, done, and I PASSED!!!!!I'llsend more details later, but in a nutshell, it was hard, but Ihad the BESTtime. Everyone was so nice and so gracious and I DIDIT!!! Now just tofinish these last two classes and I'll get mydegree. THANK YOU for all ofyour positive thoughts, prayers andenergy. I know it helped!!!HUGS TO YOUALL!Andrea ----- Original Message ----- From:"Pam Evans"To:Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:39PMSubject: Re: [CHAT] Horticultural milestoneWell lady- hope your oral exam is going well. Sending you all the good(andsmart) vibes I can muster. I'm a planting fool today. Check in whenyou get home!On 3/12/08, Andrea Hodgeswrote: Well I'm looking forward to reading anything be her when I get through with this. Thanks David! A ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franzman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Horticultural milestone > Andrea good luck to you I know you'll do well. Have fun with it. Nora > Roberts is my wife's favorite. > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andrea Hodges > To: gardenchat@hort.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:14:22 AM > Subject: [CHAT] Horticultural milestone > > OK all, I have to get up at 3:00 am tomorrow to get to the Savannah GA > airport > by 5:00. I fly to Lubbock TX to do my oral defense of my degree. It's > on > Friday at 2:00 pm central time. I need ALL the well wishes, positive > thoughts, > and prayers I can get. I am trying really hard not to be nervous. 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