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Re: Re: New oleander/schools

Pam: Not trusting any politician as far as you can kick an elephant (do
they have elephants in Texas?) is a smart thing as far as I'm concerned.
Will send you that stuff later today when I'm home. Open minds...that's
one of the things I like so much about the people on this list. :-)

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Wed 05/19,  < gardenqueen@academicplanet.com > wrote:
From:  [mailto: gardenqueen@academicplanet.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:20:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools

I don't trust him as far as I could kick an elephant, but would love
to<br>see the info off list as you say. I could be mistaken I suppose
(LOL)<br><br>TIA<br><br>Pam Evans<br>Kemp, TX<br>zone 8A<br>-----
Original Message -----<br>From: Melody<br>Sent: 5/18/2004 8:43:05
PM<br>To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] New
oleander/schools<br><br>> I'd be happy to send, off list, to anyone who
wants it a listing of why<br>> many nurses, myself included, all over
the country find John Kerry to be<br>> an excellent choice to replace
George W. at Pennsylvania Ave. next<br>> January. :-)<br>> <br>> <br>>
Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>> <br>> "The most beautiful thing we can
experience is the mysterious." <br>> --Albert Einstein<br>> <br>> --- On
Tue 05/18, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 18 May
2004 22:08:40 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools<br>>
<br>> I wish Kerry were stronger. He wouldn't have been my first choice,
but<br>> at<br>this point I would vote for Mr. Ed over letting W keep
wreak havoc<br>> for<br>another 4 yrs. When he took office I thought he
might be ok,<br>> couldn't be as<br>bad for this country as his dad was,
but day after day<br>> he proves me wrong.<br>He is far worse and every
day brings sadder news<br>> of his trampling the<br>cherished dreams of
this country. Meanwhile, he<br>> plays his religion card and<br>too many
good people follow him blindly<br>> because he's a "God-fearing
man".<br>However, a recent local letter to<br>> the editor put the ball
squarely back in<br>their court, suggesting they<br>> try thinking. He
quoted scripture to them:<br>John 4:1, "My dear<br>> friends, don't
believe everything you hear. Carefully<br>weigh and<br>> examine what
people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God<br>comes<br>> from
God."<br><br>Nader? He's an a*s. I understand why he feels the way<br>>
he does, but he's<br>only making matters
worse.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original Message

----- <br>From: "David Franzman"<br>> <dfranzma@pacbell.net><br>To:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday,<br>> May 18, 2004 6:55
PM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> oleander/schools<br><br><br>> Yes
Jim, you're right but it's more than<br>> that. First I should point
out<br>> that my kids took three weeks out of<br>> their year to take
tests proving that<br>> they have learned what they<br>> are supposed to
have learned. That's a<br>> significant amount of time<br>> to take out
of their year. If their school<br>> doesn't improve the<br>> state may
take over the school.<br>><br>> Second, in our hurry to<br>> incorporate
all children my kids are mixed with<br>> other kids whose<br>> first
language isn't English. How is any teacher<br>supposed<br>> to<br>>
teach when half the class can barely understand what the teacher
is<br>><br>> saying? How is any bright student supposed to stay awake
and feel<br>><br>> challenged when they are waiting for many others to
catch up? The<br>> Salad<br>> Bowl theory ain't working folks. Throw
those who aren't<br>> competent in<br>> English into seperate<br>> <br>>
classes until they are competent. Sorry, I realize<br>> this is
closer<br>> to Seperate but Equal than it is to Brown versus the
Board<br>of<br>><br>> Education but otherwise we are simply asking for
mediocracy. Unless<br>> we<br>all<br>> speak the same language there can
be no equality in<br>> learning.<br>><br>> Third and just as important
President Bush is an<br>> idiot and Nader has gone<br>> completely
looney. On the other hand Kerry<br>> isn't exactly lighting up the<br>>
electorate.<br>><br>> As a post scrip<br>> I just saw that in Oregon
Kerry and Bush are in a dead tie<br>> with<br>> Nader taking 5%. Now I
ask you who do you suppose that 5% would<br>> go<br>to<br>> if Nader
wasn't in the race? People in Oregon are blowing<br>> me away.<br>><br>>
David Franzman<br>> A Touch of the Tropics<br>><br>>
www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>>
From:<br>> "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org><br>>

o: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>><br>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:53
PM<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> oleander/schools<br>><br>><br>> >
Near as I can figure, the No<br>> Child..etc. is a political answer to
a<br>> > fiscal problem, and it<br>> appears to be just as slap-dash as
everything<br>> > else this<br>> administration has dreamed up. What the
schools need is more<br>> ><br>> money so they can reduce class sizes.
That will allow the teachers<br>> to<br>> > teach rather than baby
sit.<br>> ><br>> > On Tuesday, May 18,<br>> 2004, at 05:03 AM, Melody
wrote:<br>> ><br>> > > DF: This is the result<br>> of a poorly thought
out and woefully<br>underfunded<br>> > > "No Child<br>> Left Behind
Act", brought to you courtesy of our current<br>> > ><br>> government
officials. In order to continue qualifying for federal<br>> ><br>> >
financial aid for school districts, each school must meet grade<br>>
level<br>> > > requirements, you know. Well, if a certain percentage
of<br>> the children<br>> > > can't make it and that prevents the school
from<br>> getting funding, then<br>> > > what is the logical step? To
reduce the<br>> level of difficulty of what is<br>> > > being taught to
the lowest<br>> common denominator, i.e. dumbing down. In<br>> <br>>
<b<br>> r>> > > it's purest form, NCLB would be a godsend to the
children<br>> of<br>> > > America...teaching them to reach for the
highest standards.<br>> In it's<br>> > > current bastardized version,
it's a nightmare!<br>> Political action,<br>> > > though...the strength
of character to stand<br>> up for what you believe<br>> > > in...is the
only thing that will change<br>> this unfortunate course of<br>> > >
action our elected officials have<br>> embarked upon. Write or call
your<br>> > > local federal and state<br>> legislators and demand that
they fully fund<br>the<br>> > > NCLB act.<br>> Okay...off the soapbox
now...sorry, folks!<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > Melody, IA
(Z 5/4)<br>> > ><br>> > > "The most beautiful<br>> thing we can
experience is the myste

rious."<br>> > > --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>> > ><br>> > > --- On Mon
05/17, David Franzman <<br>> dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:<br>> > >
From: David Franzman [mailto:<br>> dfranzma@pacbell.net]<br>> > > To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>> > > Date:<br>> Mon, 17 May 2004 20:41:32
-0700<br>> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> oleander/schools<br>> >
><br>> > > No, no, no Pam! It's "Can I supersize<br>> that for you!"
Man, could I tell<br>> > > you<br>stories about my kids<br>> school.
They watch more movies than the<br>> > > attendants at<br>the<br>>
Sundance Movie Festival. What's worse is that not<br>> > > only are
most<br>> of the<br>movies out of context with the class but many<br>> >
> of<br>><br>> > > them are...ugh...cartoons.<br>Now are we talking
about an<br>> elementary<br>> > > school? Nope! High school. The<br>coup
d' grace was<br>> when my daughter<br>> > > came home from school and
she told me<br>that<br>> they watched, in Spanish<br>> > > class, a
Flintstones cartoon<br>> movie...IN<br>ENGLISH! Oh, it did have<br>> > >
Spanish subtitles. The<br>> schools are dumbing down<br>our kids and I
find<br>> > > it<br>> repugnant.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A Touch of
the<br>> > ><br>> Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>-----
Original Message<br>> -----<br>> > > <br>From:
<gardenqueen@academicplanet.com><br>To:<br>> ><br>> >
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:35<br>PM<br><br>>
<br>> Subject:<br>> > > Re: Re: [CHAT] New
oleander/schools<br><br><br>><br>> Agreed. I've seen<br>what<br>> > >
the local public schools produce here<br>> - you want<br>fries w/
that?<br>> > > Appalling.<br>><br>> Pam<br>> Evans<br>> Kemp, TX<br>>
zone 8A<br>> -----<br>> > > Original Message<br>> -----<br>> From: james
singer<br>> Sent: 5/17/2004<br>> > > 4:24:57<br>> PM<br>> To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> > ><br>>
oleander<br>><br>> > Yes, they are. And I think the Montessori<br>> >
><br>> environment is perfect to<br>> > bring out their curiosity.
I<br>> think<br>the<br>> > > best part--th

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