Re: Re: Re: /schools and Alex
Good for you and your family David! Every child needs to know they are truly
wanted and it sounds like you are doing a great job at that.
Andrea H
Beaufort, SC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools and Alex
> I agree. And David...I am not in the least bit surprised that you and
> your wife took that child in. You are just that kind of person. Warms my
> heart. And I've been down that road too. Even e-mailing teachers daily
> if that is what it takes. And when kids realize they are held
> accountable for their actions and getting their work done...it makes
> them a better person.
>
>
>
> <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com> wrote:
> David - good for you. That's a very fine thing you and your wife have
> done. And definitely hold their feet to the fire. They needed to inform
> you work wasn't being turned in. People on this list are so awesome, I
> must say!
>
>
> Pam Evans
> Kemp, TX
> zone 8A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Franzman
> Sent: 5/19/2004 1:23:59 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools and Alex
>
> > Ok Melody, last story for you: As most of you know my sister passed away
> > last summer. Well I don't think I told you that my wife and I adopted
her
> > adopted son. He was the product of a drug mother and he has learning
> > problems but a good kid in general. Anyway, at his last school he had
been
> > having problems. So, when he moved in with us we met with all the
> > responsible people at the school and it was agreed on that we would
receive
> > weekly progress reports. Well we were progressing along fine with
comments
> > like "good" and "fine" or "fair"! So, imagine our surprise when the real
> > progress reports came out and he had two "F's"! Ho, boy was I p.......!
A
> > hurricane ain't in it. He apparently was doing the work at home but
> > forgetting to turn it in and other such nonsense. In any case we got
that
> > straightened out in a hurry with the teachers. Now, I'm proud to say
that
> > the boy is getting all B's and C's and more importantly he's liking
himself
> > more because of it...and frankly that's a big part of the importance of
> > education.
> >
> > David Franzman
> > A Touch of the Tropics
> > www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Melody"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools
> >
> >
> > > David: You are so right...private education is a problem. But I
believe
> > > you've identified an even bigger problem...parental apathy. Look
around
> > > at the students you know who have successful outcomes to their
academic
> > > careers...how involved are their parents in their lives? How many of
> > > those parents make a point of routinely going into the school building
> > > and making it their business to seek out each one of their kids'
> > > teachers and find out what is going on? Not waiting for conference
time
> > > to find out, but on a weekly or even daily basis touching base with
the
> > > people who take care of their kids 7 or 8 hours a day? And no matter
> > > what the cost to their own personal schedules, no matter how difficult
> > > or tough it is to rearrange things to make sure they are 100%
available
> > > to their kids and their kids' teachers...that's the difference between
a
> > > child who will succeed in school and one who will fail. Bottom
> > > line...much as I would love to be able to trust that the government or
> > > the school district is looking out for my kids...no one will look out
> > > for their academic, social, emotional life better or more competently
> > > than I will so it's my duty to my kids to make sure I am there, every
> > > day, no matter what. Period. And if the teachers or the school find
that
> > > intrusive (which they don't BTW) then that's just too darn bad...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > >
> > > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > > --Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > --- On Tue 05/18, David Franzman < dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:
> > > From: David Franzman [mailto: dfranzma@pacbell.net]
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:11:07 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools
> > >
> > > Melody (I'm sorry folks I realize this is a garden group and not a
> > > soapbox
> for political agendas) I think the problem is in the reality.
> > > The reality
> is that there are far too many students in California who
> > > don't care and
> whose parents don't care whether they get an education
> > > or not. Fact is that
> there is only so much money and resources and
> > > the way we casually spend
> money in this country insures a bleak
> > > future for education.
>
> I've said this all my adult life: Private
> > > schools are the bane of this
> country. They guarantee unequal
> > > education. Send Bill Gate's and Warren
> Buffet's kids to public
> > > schools and we wouldn't be having this discussion
> right now. But as
> > > long as we don't we lose untold thousands of bright kids
> who don't
> > > have the resources to a good education and hence fall through
> > > the
> cracks.
>
> David Franzman
> A Touch of the
> > > Tropics
> www.atouchofthetropics.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> From: "Melody"
> To:
> > >
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:03 AM
> Subject:
> > > Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools
>
>
> > DF: This is the result
> > > of a poorly thought out and woefully underfunded
> > "No Child Left
> > > Behind Act", brought to you courtesy of our current
> > government
> > > officials. In order to continue qualifying for federal
> > financial
> > > aid for school districts, each school must meet grade level
> >
> > > requirements, you know. Well, if a certain percentage of the
> > > children
> > can't make it and that prevents the school from getting
> > > funding, then
> > what is the logical step? To reduce the level of
> > > difficulty of what is
> > being taught to the lowest common
> > > denominator, i.e. dumbing down. In
> > it's purest form, NCLB would be
> > > a godsend to the children of
> > America...teaching them to reach for
> > > the highest standards. In it's
> > current bastardized version, it's a
> > > nightmare! Political action,
> > though...the strength of character to
> > > stand up for what you believe
> > in...is the only thing that will
> > > change th
> > >
> > > is unfortunate course of
> > action our elected officials have embarked
> > > upon. Write or call your
> > local federal and state legislators and
> > > demand that they fully fund the
> > NCLB act. Okay...off the soapbox
> > > now...sorry, folks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >
> >
> > > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> >
> > > --Albert Einstein
> >
> > --- On Mon 05/17, David Franzman <
> > > dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:
> > From: David Franzman [mailto:
> > > dfranzma@pacbell.net]
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date: Mon, 17
> > > May 2004 20:41:32 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] New
> > > oleander/schools
> >
> > No, no, no Pam! It's "Can I supersize that
> > > for you!" Man, could I tell
> > you
> stories about my kids school.
> > > They watch more movies than the
> > attendants at
> the Sundance Movie
> > > Festival. What's worse is that not
> > only are most of the
> movies
> > > out of context with the class but many of
> > them
> > > are...ugh...cartoons.
> Now are we talking about an elementary
> >
> > > school? Nope! High school. The
> coup d' grace was when my
> > > daughter
> > came home from school and she told me
> that they
> > > watched, in Spanish
> > class, a Flintstones cartoon
> > > movie...IN
> ENGLISH! Oh, it did have
> > Spanish subtitles. The
> > > schools are dumbing down
> our kids and I find
> > it
> > > repugnant.
>
> David Franzman
> A Touch of the
> >
> > > Tropics
> www.atouchofthetropics.net
> ----- Original Message
> > > -----
> >
> From:
> To:
> >
> > >
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:35
> > > PM
> Subject:
> > Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools
>
>
> >
> > > Agreed. I've seen what
> > the local public schools produce here - you
> > > want
> fries w/ that?
> > Appalling.
> >
> > Pam Evans
> > Kemp,
> > > TX
> > zone 8A
> > -----
> > Original Message -----
> > From: james
> > > singer
> > Sent: 5/17/2004
> > 4:24:57 PM
> > To:
> > > gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] New
> > oleander
> >
> >
> > > > Yes, they are. And I think the Montessori
> > environment is perfect
> > > to
> > >
> > >
> > > b
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