RE: Rain

Don't you have clay soil or something like that, all the natives I plant
need well-drained poor sandy soil which is, of course, exactly what I
have. I forgot I also have a few kniphofias in the dry garden, but I
don't think they are as happy as they would be with a bit more water. I
have a couple cistus in the teahouse garden but they don't really look
like they fit there. 
I get poppies almost everywhere in a good year, even in the veggie
garden, but none of the other wildflowers will move into the cultivated
areas. 

Cyndi


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From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:17 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rain

Hi Cyndi, thanks so much for the plant list.  Quite a few of these I
have -- just one or two plants.  I'm pretty well up on what the natives
around here are.  My over-arching problem is the poor soil, for just
about everything! 
which I am not likely to do a good job remedying at this point in my
life. 
I have several salvia and lavenders are doing very well, also catmints
and echinacea (not "dry", I know).  Also have a phlomis planted last
fall that is going great guns.  My main shrubs are cistus --- they do
super.  Once again did not get any poppies planted -- would love to get
them naturalized. 
HAve one penstemon which sank last year but is coming back well this
spring and am going to try more.  I actually had a native buckwheat when
I lived the Bay Area and it did great -- have not managed to acquire any
more for 
here but I love the plants.   Blooming wild now are muleears, a local 
achillea, and a patch of monardella just about to pop, some brodaeia
(not sure which).  Thanks for the info!
--Barb, Grass Valley, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Rain


>I have lots of salvias - salvia clevelandii looks the best, also s.
> greggii is happy as it's reseeding itself, s.leucophylla, s.
> pachyphylla, s.dorrii, s. spathacea. Some penstemons - p.palmeri does
> the best it also is reseeding, p.strictus, p.heterophyllus. I've tried
> other penstemons but they don't last long. Russian sage, texas ranger,
> hesperaloe, buckwheat (Eriogonum umbellatum and e.fasciculatum),
Apache
> plume (Fallugia paradoxa), spanish lavender, common sage (but it's
> struggling), caesalpinia gilliesii, and zauschneria. I have desert
> willow (Chilopsis linearis) and silk tree (Albizia julibrissin),
> although the silk trees were there before I decided it was a
xeriscape.
> They've managed okay. Couple of agaves but the gophers are eventually
> going to eat them as they've done all the rest, and one opuntia cactus
> that may or may not recover from the Big Freeze. I put out Bulbine
> frutescens as well but I think that's going to end up as an annual. I
> have one ornamental grass but I can't remember what it is, probably
some
> variety of pennisetum. Dune primrose (Oenothera deltoides) appeared in
> the garden and is rapidly spreading, it does not seem to choke out
> anything so I leave it as it's quite attractive in bloom. Usually
there
> are California poppies but not this year, I should have watered during
> the winter. I would love to have Datura but so far none of the seed
pods
> I've collected have produced any plants, and I'd like ceanothus but
> haven't been able to get one to live so far.
> If you're looking for CA natives check out the Las Pilitas web site,
> they are very informative about what grows where - pages and pages of
> plant communities are listed. Plug in your ZIP code and they will tell
> you what is native to your area.
>
> Cyndi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of sundrops@earthlink.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:30 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rain
>
> Cyndi, what do you have in your dry garden?  We're not in the same
> planting zones, but thought there might be some overlap and ideas for
me
> -- --Barb, Grass Valley CA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Rain
>
>
>> No rain here, and likely no chance of any until next year. We went
>> camping in the mountains this weekend and while there is water in
most
>
>> of the streams it is very dry up there. My sister says she will be
>> surprised if they don't close the whole area around mid-summer.
>> I planted 33 chile pepper plants last night, along with about the
same
>
>> number of bell peppers on Friday. Both beds are covered with Reemay
>> but I ran out so I had to uncover the soybeans to take care of the
> peppers.
>> Hope the rabbits don't go after the soybean plants but they are good
>> size by now so I am not too too apprehensive. We haven't yet received
>> the zapper thing my husband ordered so I'm still protecting
everything
>
>> with Reemay and chicken wire.
>> Aside from the lettuce and the peas, most things in the veggie garden
>> look okay. But I haven't uncovered the corn in weeks so I don't know
>> what's going on under there, I'll have to check it out before I go to
>> New Mexico next week. I got most of the roses deadheaded and that's
>> about all I've managed to do in the front. Husband says if I leave
him
>
>> a list while I'm gone he will do some work in the evenings. What a
>> guy. He can recognize grass so perhaps I'll ask him to weed the dry
>> garden, if I say pull only grass it should be safe enough.
>>
>> Cyndi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of james singer
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:53 PM
>> To: Garden Chat
>> Subject: [CHAT] Rain
>>
>> Two showers today, but taken together, less than a half inch of
water.
>> Of course, if we could get that every day, it would be nice. I
>> wouldn't have to worry about watering the stuff in pots and hanging
> baskets.
>>
>> And speaking of hanging baskets, I noticed today that our Garten
Perle
>
>> cherry tomato has about a dozen green fruits. This is one T&M
>> recommended for hanging baskets, so it looks like they were right
>> although the plant is a bit rangy at this point. Maybe it will get
>> droopy as it gets bigger.
>>
>> Island Jim
>> Southwest Florida
>> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
>> Hardiness Zone 10
>> Heat Zone 10
>> Sunset Zone 25
>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
>>
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