Re: news of the day/stuff

Kitty - I have a bought in 1984 on closeout Mitsubishi 19" TV. I only
use it for watching movies since I don't watch TV period. I have a
little 9" w/ rabbit ears I got when my aunt died and use it to pick up
the news in the mornings while I'm getting dressed. Pat across the
street and her hubby are the packrats. I went over there to take Arnold
his pancake and their was a TV box on the front porch as big as my car.
Unbelievable. Lord only knows how they even got it in the house!



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:39:07 -0500

>>  Stuff is - ...Having a 50" TV in every room in the house when one or two
>> would suffice ...
>
>One 50 inch tv will suffice for you?  I have a 27 inch.  I guess I don't
>have enough stuff. :+)
>
>Kitty
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:56 AM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
>
>
>> Bonnie, plants are not "stuff" they are living things! They are
>> important to us and the quality of our lives in enhanced by their
>> presence, much like pets. You need the containers to put them in and
>> books to take care of them! Stuff is - excess junk - more furniture than
>> you could ever need. More clothes/shoes than ten people could wear and
>> like that! Having a 50" TV in every room in the house when one or two
>> would suffice and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date:  Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:31:25 -0800
>>
>> >What really slammed me about 'stuff' was helping my brothers and sisters
>> >get my parent's home ready for sale in one weekend after my Dad went into
>> >emergency care.  It seemed to me that we spend our early years
>accumulating
>> >'stuff' and the end of our lives getting rid of it.  And, don't get me
>> >wrong, my husband and I have a large house and garage full of 'stuff'.
>We
>> >are both collectors and pack rats.  In my early life, I taught in the
>first
>> >Head Start programs.  We started without anything.  I remember a seminar
>on
>> >'Beautiful Junk' that taught us to use all sorts of throwaway things.  It
>> >just added to my inclination to look for "possibilities" for everything.
>> >One of my long-term goals is to pare down my 'stuff' to those things I
>> >really need and love.   But, here I am, buying more plants, containers,
>and
>> >plant books.
>> >
>> >Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> Date: 11/08/2003 11:03:20 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
>> >>
>> >> You know, I like "stuff".  I like my computer, my tv, my stereo.  I
>like
>> >all
>> >> the various office supply stuff I keep around to have just the right
>thing
>> >> for a project.  I like all the stuff in my garage that makes gardening
>> >> easier and more fun.  I will like my new kitchen cabinets if they ever
>> >> finish installing them, even though the old ones (40yrs) were still ok.
>[I
>> >> put them in the garage to hold more stuff].  I like my Harmony Kingdom
>> >> stuff - gives me sort of a tickle just to look at them.  I like my
>garden
>> >> cat stuff, though they aren't necessary to enjoy the garden.  I like
>> >stuff.
>> >>
>> >> But there is a point when people need to say, I have enough stuff to
>keep
>> >me
>> >> happy, maybe I could help someone else out with the stuff they need.
>And
>> >> even when we don't yet have all the stuff we need or want, maybe we
>could
>> >> wait just a little longer and help someone else get some deperately
>needed
>> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> And if I have to do without some of the stuff I really want or even
>think
>> >I
>> >> really need because it adversely impacts someone else or the
>environment,
>> >> that's ok, too.  Surely we can find alternatives.
>> >>
>> >> Kitty
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:31 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > In my mind I can point to the time "greed" became the mantra for
>> >corporate
>> >> > America.  I was working in D.C. in a large law firm in the late
>1970's.
>> >> > Ringer's book, "Looking Out For Number One" was on the best seller
>list
>> >> and
>> >> > required reading for managers of many large firms.  It seems to me
>that
>> >> > from that point forward the emphasis was on self...what one could
>> >acquire,
>> >> > how much one could spend on cars, houses, etc., buying the best and
>> >> > bragging on it.  Problems of those less fortunate didn't concern
>those
>> >on
>> >> > this track unless they were directly involved.  The thought of giving
>> >back
>> >> > to the community whose structure and principles allowed great success
>> >was
>> >> > completely lost.
>> >> >
>> >> > Enough...my soapbox just turned over.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > [Original Message]
>> >> > > From: Marge Talt <mtalt@hort.net>
>> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> > > Date: 11/07/2003 9:07:17 PM
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
>> >> > > > > May we someday wake up and go for more renewable, cleaner,
>energy
>> >> > > sources!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'll second that!  However, I very much fear that money is what
>> >> > > drives things the world around and as long as those with vested
>> >> > > interests in keeping the status quo are the ones donating mammoth
>> >> > > sums to election campaigns, I can guarantee that renewable energy
>is
>> >> > > going to stay firmly in the rumble seat.  When you stop and think
>> >> > > about the vast network of businesses that depend on oil in some
>form
>> >> > > for their existence, you can see that the vested interests are
>large.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Until some disaster occurs, this nation seems set on reaction
>instead
>> >> > > of proaction, and then seems to waste time, money and energy in
>> >> > > trying to point to fix responsibility on some entity - witness the
>> >> > > eastcoast black out this year -  (I guess so people can sue them)
>> >> > > instead of saying "Hello..it's time to do something about
>> >> > > this"...just too much power in the hands of a few extremely
>> >> > > short-sighted and profit-motivated persons.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Now, I don't have anything against making a nice profit in business
>> >> > > (only wish we could manage that), but there is profit and there is
>> >> > > greed; today, greed is winning hands down.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> >> > > mtalt@hort.net
>> >> > > Editor:  Gardening in Shade
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