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RE: OT:now independence/Girl Scouts

Theresa: Wow! Isn't it amazing the power that people have to influence
the lives of others...for good or bad...just by the way they go about
living their own lives? I think that if more people were aware of the
lessons that kids eventually take away from childhood, especially the
subconscious ones, they might be more respectful of the example they are
setting for those little ones. This is where professional athletes who
do drugs and get into trouble with the law and then obnoxiously announce
the fact that they never set out to be anyone's role model really,
really get it wrong!

I sure hope you've told all this to your mom...sounds like she certainly deserves to hear it!  

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Tue 11/25, Theresa < tchessie@comcast.net > wrote:
From: Theresa [mailto: tchessie@comcast.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:34 -0800
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT:now independence/Girl Scouts

Funny you should mention that- I was a girl scout (and still am a
life<br>member) thoughout school even through high school. I went to
National<br>Center West, the annual conventions at the state and
national level, camped<br>a ton, met lots of wonderful people, and still
have both a vest and sash<br>covered with badges. My mom was a leader
part of the time, and regardless<br>of that I still would have gotten my
sense of self-reliance from her. She<br>did anything that needed to be
done inside or outside the house, fixed<br>things, worked hard, even
taught us how to fish and enjoyed all of it. I am<br>eternally grateful
to her for living like she did and showing us what we<br>could do. Oh
course as a kid I had no idea this is what she was doing, we<br>we just
living and growing up. She still is happiest outside in the yard,<br>and
cares for her own small yard, and then goes over to my younger
sister's<br>house and cleans up her garden beds too (my sister doesn't
do much in them<br>on purpose becuase she knows my mom likes to do it).
So, yeah for being<br>self-sufficient. My mom is now 71. When she was in
high school she applied<br>and won a nursing school scholarship- moved
herself to Washington DC from<br>Florida just as she turned 17, and has
been making her own path ever since.<br>Thank god my mom is a brave and
persistant woman, who knows what I'd be like<br>otherwise- she came from
a family who was poorly educated, lived in a small<br>southern town that
embraced segragation and prejudice of all kinds, and her<br>mother spent
most of her time waiting for my grandfather to come home from<br>work,
going to the hairdresser and reading trashy novels. I have no
idea<br>how my mom managed to escape all of the above- my only guess is
that the<br>little time she spent with her great grandmother (who was a
tiny woman, yet<br>totally independent and running a farm) really must
have had a huge impact.<br><br>Ok- I'm done
now.<br><br>Theresa<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:

t [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On<br>Behalf Of Melody<br>Sent:
Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:50 AM<br>To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] throw away society now
independence<br><br><br>This is one of my biggest reasons for being
involved with Girl Scouts as<br>both a leader and a parent...it's
important to me that my girls and<br>their friends who choose to be
involved in Girl Scouts learn early that<br>the road to self esteem lies
in their ability to do for themselves...as<br>a troop leader I find
enjoyment in watching the girls learning to be<br>self sufficient and
capable in many arenas that will serve them well
as<br>adults.<br><br><br><br>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br><br>"The most
beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>--Albert
Einstein<br><br> --- On Fri 11/21, Theresa < tchessie@comcast.net >
wrote:<br>From: Theresa [mailto: tchessie@comcast.net]<br>To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:03 -0800<br>Subject:
RE: [CHAT] throw away society<br><br>I'll second that! I am delighted
that I can replace a kitchen faucet,<br>haul<br>shrubs out of the
ground, and still occassionally catch guys<br>watching me<br>walk across
the grocery store parking lot when I'm in a<br>pair of heels.<br>Thank
god my husband is also an independent thinking<br>person- and not in
the<br>least threatened by my tendency to do what<br>ever comes to mind.
(Although he<br>did fuss at me when I nearly got<br>crushed underneath
the yard waste barrel<br>becuase I had put about 400<br>lbs of stuff in
it and then tried to move it all<br>by myself :) It<br>cracks me up when
my male neighbor across the street wants<br>to know<br>where my husband
is when I'm out working in the yard and garden-<br>It<br>is my project,
not my husbands! It worries my thought when his 11<br>year
old<br>daughter doesn't understand this- maybe eventually a little<br>of
my influence<br>will rub off

<br>Behalf<br>Of Pamela J. Evans<br>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:10
PM<br>To:<br>gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] throw
away<br>society<br><br><br>Amen to that Donna. My mother once said to
me, not<br>too many years ago,<br>that she wondered if she raised us to
be too<br>independent! I told her -<br>absolutely not. Can't be too
independent.<br>That would like being too into<br>gardening -
can't<br>happen!!<br><br><br>LOL<br><br>---------- Original
Message<br>----------------------------------<br>From: "Donna
"<br><justme@prairieinet.net><br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date:
Fri,<br>21 Nov 2003 19:46:43 -0600<br><br>>I think this was the most
important<br>thing you can do for your child...<br>> No matter what life
throws at<br>them, they will be able to handle it...<br>>whether we
approve or<br>not...<br>><br>>Donna<br>><br>><br>>> I became a
very<br>>> independent<br>person, and raised my sons to be individuals.
They<br>>haven't<br>>><br>always<br>>> turned out the way I expected,
but they are all very much<br>independent<br>>>
individuals.<br>>><br>>><br><br>Thanks for your
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