Re: SS overflow, change the law

I think part of the problem re SS and government is that older workers
didn't pay into retirement and SS.  I remember when government workers
started paying SS.  At the agency I worked for, we paid into both systems
and are eligible for both.  There are around 22 Federal retirement systems
or plans and they all have different requirements.  


> [Original Message]
> From: <TeichFlora@aol.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 10/6/2006 8:09:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] SS overflow, change the law
>
> A person  cannot collect military and government  pensions.  They take
away 
> one or the other.  My dad retired from the  military as a commissioned
officer 
> with over 20 years, then went to work for the  Govt. and retired with a
high 
> GS rating, with more than 20 years again.  He  was not able to collect
both. It 
> hasn't been easy on mom since his death  with collecting Social Security.

> However, if a military retiree goes  to work for a civilian company or
State 
> govt. that is different, they can  collect both.  They paid their time
and 
> retired though....I do not see why  they should not be able to.  
>  
>  Plus the Govt. has a racket going on with SBP (Survivor Benefit  
> Plan)....many of those in the military paid in for years, even after
retirement,  it is 
> automatically taken out from their retirement.......only to find that
they  are 
> now cutting the SBP, and you cannot get both....SBP and SS.  Not only 
that, 
> but the SBP was less than what they paid in a month.   If  you opt out,
you do 
> not get your money back.  At the time, the military had  no choice to
join 
> this program.  Dh is in the same boat now.
> Noreen
> zone 9
> Texas Gulf Coast
>  
> In a message dated 10/5/2006 11:02:55 AM Central Standard Time,  
> gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:
>
> I doubt  it, but. The general public has always resented public employees 
> and see  them as loaded up on benefits and pay they can not have. Nothing 
> further  from the truth, but ...... Double dipping... retiring from the 
> military  with one pension and still being young enough to retire from 
> another  government job has always been resented and the employees seen
as 
> rich at  the public expense.
>
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