RE: got my loquat planted/ now need tree recommendation

I see both kinds here, the chilopsis native and the chitalpa hybrid.
There's no denying the chitalpa is a more attractive landscape tree. It
still blooms all summer too. My personal preference is for the native -
I like its more unkempt appearance I guess - and where I have them
planted I want that kind of look. I have not seen the named varieties in
local nurseries either, which is odd, you'd think they'd be all over
considering how well-suited they are to this climate.

Cyndi


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From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Theresa G.
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:12 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] got my loquat planted/ now need tree recommendation

Thanks Noreen.  I need to do a bit more hunting to find one and I might
have to wait until spring (even though NOW is the ideal time to plant
anything here).
I'll keep hunting...
Theresa

TeichFauna@aol.com wrote:
> About 10 years ago when I was looking for Texas native plants for our
native
> garden, there were many varieties available.  It was difficult to
find the
> actual native Desert Willow,  Chilopsis linearis.  There were  many
more of
> the
> "improved" varieties  available....which were supposed to  be faster
growing,
> larger blooms, different colors etc.  The native has  large trumpet
blooms
> that are white with pink (light to  dark).   Named varieties at the
time were:
> White  Storm, with white blooms; Dark Storm, with dark burgundy
blooms; and
> several  others, such as: Marfa Lace, Tejas, and Alpine that has
shorter wider
> leaves.  There is another that is supposed to be very robust and easy
to  grow
> called Bubba.  Available also is a cross between the Catalpa  and the
> Chilopsis, called a Chitalpa that was supposed to be an even better
landscape
> plant
> than the native, combining the traits of both genre into  one.  Back
then, the
> NPSOT and the TXDOT were very strict about native  plantings being the
true
> native.   After seeing the other types  growing, I wish I had just
gone ahead
> with one of the "improved" varieties,  since they seem to be far more
suitable
> to a landscape....faster growing, larger  blooms, less temperamental
to
> changes in soil, water, etc.    I'm  sure that now there are probably
even
> more
> varieties available.
>
> My suggestion is to go with a named variety, rather than the pure
native.
>
> Noreen
> zone 9
> Texas Gulf Coast
>
> In a message dated 10/27/2008 10:02:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil writes:
>
> They  grow pretty quickly for a xeric plant. I got one of mine from
HCG
> about 5  years ago, it was maybe 7 inches tall. I was a little
dismayed
> but planted  it outside anyway, and now it's just as tall as the
others I
> got from the  nursery, they were about 5'. They're all about 8' now.
> The description in  the catalog for the HCG one said it had bigger
> blossoms and longer bloom  than the common ones; I haven't really
found
> that to be obvious. But there  is one down the street with almost
solid
> magenta blossoms and it's in a  spot I can get to it. I'm going to try
> and take some cuttings off it next  spring, if I can get them growing
> I'll finish off my back fence plantings  with them.
>
>
>
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