Re: Re: Jim


C'mon Jim - tell us what you REALLY think!!  LOL
Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: james singer
Sent: 9/5/2004 5:10:27 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jim

> Agents always say stupid stuff like that. Insurance companies are  
> prohibited from raising rates to re-coup for past catastrophes.
> 
> [Just noticed on the tube that some morons who think with their  
> testosterone glands are out swimming in Tampa Bay. Cops had to go haul  
> them out. I think the cops should have harpooned them, but what do I  
> know.]
> 
> Back to insurance companies. When they take a big hit, like Andrew or  
> Charley, their usual response is not to raise rates, but to stop  
> writing policies in that area and let attrition [also called "terminal  
> old age" in Florida] take care of the rest. When I first moved down  
> here [a few years post Andrew], none of the captains of free enterprise  
> wrote hurricane insurance policies here. The state had a hurricane  
> insurance fund that required the private enterprise thieves who  
> continued to sell auto and homeowners insurance in the state to  
> re-insure a portion of the state program.
> 
> There's nothing freebooters like less than being called a scam by some  
> government body, so within about two years, they were all back in line,  
> selling hurricane insurance. And at a rate below that of the state pool  
> [have you heard? private enterprise can do it for less than Big  
> Government].
> 
> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 06:03 PM, Kitty wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the update, Jim.  I'm sure some of its effects will reach  
> > Indiana
> > in some way or another though.  That sounds like one huge storm.
> >
> > I'm sorry to sound so naive, but I guess I am.  Are the electrical  
> > outages
> > because of electrical lines coming down?  Could this be alleviated to  
> > some
> > extent by running lines underground?  I know this would cost a  
> > fortune, but
> > money is being spent left and right on the damages anyway.
> >
> > These hurricanes affect everyone eventually.  After the fallout from  
> > Andrew
> > settled, MY homeowners rates went up 47% here in Indiana.  When I  
> > asked why
> > they said that at least 390 insurance companies went under from paying  
> > out
> > claims for Andrew and many of their policies were underwritten by  
> > larger
> > companies like mine.  The money has to come from somewhere.  9/11  
> > payouts
> > were a factor, too.
> >
> > Hey, we're all in this together.  Stay safe, Jim & Beans.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jim
> >
> >
> >> Oops. Wrote too soon. 5 PM advisory says it's headed for the Ohio-West
> >> Virginia border. Ivan, however, has already indicated it will swing
> >> north and head for the Keys.
> >>
> >> I'm beginning to develop an alternate theory about why King Lear  
> >> railed
> >> against the storm.
> >>
> >> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 05:14 PM, james singer wrote:
> >>
> >>> TV news reader just said there are 4 million persons in Florida
> >>> without electricity. He also said Frances is now 400 miles east to
> >>> west and 600 miles north to south. The eye is now about 65 miles NNE
> >>> of me. If not too much exaggeration that's one very large storm, big
> >>> enough to cover most of the state. Last time I checked the National
> >>> Hurricane Center, they were predicting it would get all the way to
> >>> Indiana before petering out.
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 04:58 PM, ""
> >>> <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Let's hope so - FL needs no more storms this season at least!
> >>>>
> >>>> Pam Evans
> >>>> Kemp, TX
> >>>> zone 8A
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: james singer
> >>>> Sent: 9/5/2004 1:06:58 PM
> >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't know if they've gotten worse, but Florida sure seems to  
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> surplus of them this year. We've also got Ivan headed this way  
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> two weeks out. Ivan is generally following the track blazed by
> >>>>> Charley
> >>>>> until Charley pulled an abrupt right turn over Cuba and headed up
> >>>>> Florida's west coast. Maybe Ivan will keep on trucking and end up  
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> Belize or the Yucatan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 02:14 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Lord, what a mess.  I read an article this am about a kennel that
> >>>>>> has
> >>>>>> taken
> >>>>>> in animals for the duration.  They can handle 37 dogs, but they  
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> taken
> >>>>>> in 137 animals and have packed them in wherever.  Apparently the
> >>>>>> concrete
> >>>>>> building should withstand the storm, but they've lost power and  
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> working
> >>>>>> in the dark.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it only because I know people (you) down there now that I am  
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>> aware
> >>>>>> of the hurricanes or have they gotten much worse in recent years?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> >>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:37 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Jim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm here, Scottie, but thanks for asking.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We [Beans and I; Ms. Fatma's in New Hampshire] are entering our
> >>>>>>> second
> >>>>>>> 24 hours of sporadic rain and gusty wind. No anemometer, but I'd
> >>>>>>> guess
> >>>>>>> they're in the 25 to 35 MPH range. The real problem is that
> >>>>>>> Frances is
> >>>>>>> moving so slowly--9 or 10 MPH--so it's taking what seems like
> >>>>>>> forever
> >>>>>>> to get out of here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Right now it appears to be crossing Charley's path. Those poor
> >>>>>>> people.
> >>>>>>> Apparently many of those communities had piled up the debris from
> >>>>>>> Charley but hadn't had time to dispose of it, and now
> >>>>>>> Frances has scattered it all over hell again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just saw a graphic on the tube. Frances has a diameter of 366
> >>>>>>> miles,
> >>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>> while it's parked over the state, a considerable amount of her
> >>>>>>> hangs
> >>>>>>> off both sides.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 01:08 PM, Scottie wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Has anybody heard from Jim since yesterday?
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Southwest Florida
> >>>>>>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
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> >> Southwest Florida
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