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RE: was Labor weekend now horses

You could have used those old windows to make some nice cold frames in
Illinois!  Are there enough to make a small greenhouse?  LOL!!!  Fence posts
would make some nice edging material if left level with the soil or slightly
above the soil (so your mower will go over the edge smoothly for ease of
mowing.)  And those bricks would also make nice edging and/or wonderful
paths through your shade or sun gardens.  I wouldn't mind having your
"junk," Andrea!  It sounds like you have the makings for some wonderful hard
scape for your garden, though I'm not fond of dealing with bugs like that
either!  LOL!!!

Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Andrea Hodges
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:32 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: [CHAT] was Labor weekend now horses

Something I've always wanted to do and keep putting off is to learn to ride
a horse comfortably and know how to saddle, etc. I've got my first riding
lesson on September 23rd. I'm so excited.

I labored some in the garden over the weekend but not nearly as much as you
Cyndi! Wow. I'm truly impressed. If I had you and Theresa here I could have
my new shade garden ready to plant in no time. I did splurge and buy four
Smith and Hawken plant stand from a lady who is moving. They are very cool
and hold tons of stuff. I've managed to get quite a collection of orchids
working at the Garden Gate since no one know how to take care of them and
they all looked like crap. They got sent home with me. LOL! I'm actually off
this Saturday so I've got more plans to get the shade garden cleared out. If
only there wasn't so much "junk" in there I could start planting right away.

It's still got piles of bricks, fence posts, old windows, etc that need to
be moved and I am NOT looking forward to it. I just know the bricks will be
teeming with Palmetto bugs, or, the southern version of a giant cockroach
that can fly. Bugs don't normally bother me, but those things freak me out. 
I have no problem squishing one, but hoards of them make me feel like I've
been dumped into the middle of a bad sci-fi movie. Shiver shiver!

I got some Salvia gregii 'Cherry Queen' this week which is one of my
favorites, and a very cool Alocasia 'Polly' that is on my front porch. Also
a new lime green ceramic pot for 50% off and a few other odds and ends. I'm
very much looking forward to less humid weather so I can play out there for

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Labor weekend

> You really labored!!!  All my friends with horses say that they do take a
> lot of work.
> We finally got some cooler weather and great rain...the kind that softly
> comes down for hours and really soaks into the soil...caught up about five
> inches.  I put up some posts and rails along the veggie garden, did lots 
> of
> weeding, and am trying to catch up with pruning moving plants, and taking
> up bulbs, etc.  I had planted a lot of kitchen mulch in some new garden
> areas that resulted in volunteer cantaloupes...the hot weather before this
> rain gave us some wonderful melons...large and sweet.
> My neighbor who has a large veggie garden said that her okra didn't do 
> well
> this year, too.
> Today, I started digging up crocosmia...have some red and a sort of golden
> orange if anyone wants some.
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Date: 9/6/2006 1:05:34 PM
>> Subject: [CHAT] Labor weekend
>> I finally got through all the mail you guys generated. Sounds like
>> everyone had a pretty good weekend and there was even some rain where it
>> was needed.
>> We labored much over the Labor Day weekend but alas, not much of it was
>> in the garden. Mostly we are adjusting to the new horse. Thursday we had
>> corral fences delivered to extend the two stalls. After looking at the
>> original installation we decided it didn't take as much space as we'd
>> expected and we were able to give them more room, so we bought the
>> extra. So, take down the old, move the horse out of the way, take down
>> the cross-fence to allow in the delivery truck. All I can say is thank
>> heaven the delivery guys were willing to install the new fences, because
>> they were 24' long instead of 12' and correspondingly more heavy, and
>> while I'm not weak I'm no match for guys - husband and I would have
>> spent hours wrestling those things into place and instead it took maybe
>> 45 minutes.
>> Since we just gained so much time we then put up the fences for the 50'
>> round pen. That was only a couple hours too. Of course it's getting hot
>> by then so we collapsed in the hammock under the tree. But husband could
>> not rest...he decided to start the concrete work under our vehicle gate.
>> Between the back and the front there are several big gates, and this one
>> had a long section of cattle panel - very heavy welded wire - over the
>> ground to keep the dogs from digging out. We decided that we didn't want
>> the horse walking on that and if we dug a trench and filled it with
>> concrete right under the gate, it would work as a barrier. So off he
>> goes with his shovel. It's dead of summer of course, this is the desert,
>> so the ground was like rock. The shovel was discarded in favor of a
>> pickaxe. After watching him turn beet red within seconds I figured I'd
>> better help so there's the two of us, pickaxing away at a 12' long
>> trench. Then we had to go get the concrete, 25 bags at 60 pounds apiece
>> which we loaded into the truck. Then we mixed the concrete and filled
>> the trench, and since he was mixing, I got to move all those bags again.
>> And when we were done with THAT, I went for my 3 mile walk with my
>> friend, who was getting snarky about me giving her all these excuses for
>> not walking because I was busy with the horse.
>> So that was Thursday. If you think that was a lot of work, why yes it
>> was, thank you for noticing. :-)
>> I'd also like to know why all that calorie expenditure didn't show up on
>> the scale. Life is not fair. But anyway...
>> The good part is that what we did on Thursday was my husband's entire
>> to-do list for the weekend. He got a lot more little jobs done over the
>> next few days so that was helpful. We worked the horse a number of
>> times, quite educational for all of us. I picked bell peppers and
>> stuffed them for the freezer, and I made pesto and froze it. I had to
>> tackle a heck of a lot of grass in the herb bed to get to the basil, but
>> the worst of it is out of there. The basil has gone to seed pretty much
>> but I cut it back and with luck I'll get another few cups of pesto
>> before it freezes in October. There are few zillion peppers, I have
>> plans and just need the time to deal with them. Zucchini and cukes still
>> producing but a massive attack of aphids has arrived - I sprayed with
>> light oil, so we'll see if I did any good. Maybe I'll go in there with
>> the hose and spray real hard in a couple days. I'm getting enough
>> eggplant to make me happy, there are no tomatoes to speak of, and the
>> melons are pretty much worthless. I'm not growing honeydew ever again -
>> despite reading many descriptions I am having terrible luck guessing
>> when they're ripe, either I get dry and tasteless or fermented melon
>> bombs. I like cantaloupes better anyway. I'm surprised I am not getting
>> much okra, I thought that was like zucchini in terms of mass production,
>> but there are only a couple pods a day out of maybe six plants. Not
>> enough water maybe.
>> I had planned on digging and moving a lot of bearded iris but never got
>> to it, that needs to be done. The dry garden still has russian sage,
>> salvia greggii, germander sage and the desert willow blooming. I haven't
>> seen the zauschneria blooming yet and I'm kinda curious why not. There
>> are a few roses and the sedum is making big blossom heads but they are
>> not open yet. Liriope looks very nice this time of year with its purple
>> spikes, I should start dividing some of the bigger clumps.
>> At our fair I talked to a guy from one of the local conservation
>> districts, he has native California juniper available. I have been
>> looking for that for my back fence so next month - if I remember - I'll
>> drive that way and see if I can get one or two. He said they grow slowly
>> but I'm hoping with a little extra water I can speed it up. He also said
>> that they are pretty hard to germinate which may explain why I never see
>> any seedlings around the one in my yard. I am sure having a time getting
>> stuff to establish back there. But I have two mesquite planted this
>> spring that look pretty good, another two saltbush, and even the
>> manzanita is not looking too bad. The elderberry all croaked, oh well,
>> and one each of mesquite and saltbush didn't make it. Well...another ten
>> or fifteen years I guess before it looks good...then no doubt we'll
>> decide to move.
>> Cyndi
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