RE: was Labor weekend now horses


I agree with Bonnie M.  I am using old brick for edging and paths and the
posts and rails are recycled, too.  Since the stuff has some age, it really
looks good...like it has been there a long time...complete with lichens
(the wood).  I had some windows replaced a couple of years ago but they
were metal and not all of the same size.  I had thought of a small
greenhouse.  Wood frames I could have handled but the metal didn't move me
to try.


> [Original Message]
> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 9/8/2006 8:30:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] was Labor weekend now horses
>
> You could have used those old windows to make some nice cold frames in
> Illinois!  Are there enough to make a small greenhouse?  LOL!!!  Fence
posts
> would make some nice edging material if left level with the soil or
slightly
> above the soil (so your mower will go over the edge smoothly for ease of
> mowing.)  And those bricks would also make nice edging and/or wonderful
> paths through your shade or sun gardens.  I wouldn't mind having your
> "junk," Andrea!  It sounds like you have the makings for some wonderful
hard
> scape for your garden, though I'm not fond of dealing with bugs like that
> either!  LOL!!!
>
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of Andrea Hodges
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:32 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: [CHAT] was Labor weekend now horses
>
> Something I've always wanted to do and keep putting off is to learn to
ride
> a horse comfortably and know how to saddle, etc. I've got my first riding
> lesson on September 23rd. I'm so excited.
>
> I labored some in the garden over the weekend but not nearly as much as
you
> Cyndi! Wow. I'm truly impressed. If I had you and Theresa here I could
have
> my new shade garden ready to plant in no time. I did splurge and buy four
> Smith and Hawken plant stand from a lady who is moving. They are very cool
> and hold tons of stuff. I've managed to get quite a collection of orchids
> working at the Garden Gate since no one know how to take care of them and
> they all looked like crap. They got sent home with me. LOL! I'm actually
off
> this Saturday so I've got more plans to get the shade garden cleared out.
If
> only there wasn't so much "junk" in there I could start planting right
away.
>
> It's still got piles of bricks, fence posts, old windows, etc that need to
> be moved and I am NOT looking forward to it. I just know the bricks will
be
> teeming with Palmetto bugs, or, the southern version of a giant cockroach
> that can fly. Bugs don't normally bother me, but those things freak me
out. 
> I have no problem squishing one, but hoards of them make me feel like I've
> been dumped into the middle of a bad sci-fi movie. Shiver shiver!
>
> I got some Salvia gregii 'Cherry Queen' this week which is one of my
> favorites, and a very cool Alocasia 'Polly' that is on my front porch.
Also
> a new lime green ceramic pot for 50% off and a few other odds and ends.
I'm
> very much looking forward to less humid weather so I can play out there
for
> hours.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Labor weekend
>
>
> > You really labored!!!  All my friends with horses say that they do take
a
> > lot of work.
> >
> > We finally got some cooler weather and great rain...the kind that softly
> > comes down for hours and really soaks into the soil...caught up about
five
> > inches.  I put up some posts and rails along the veggie garden, did
lots 
> > of
> > weeding, and am trying to catch up with pruning moving plants, and
taking
> > up bulbs, etc.  I had planted a lot of kitchen mulch in some new garden
> > areas that resulted in volunteer cantaloupes...the hot weather before
this
> > rain gave us some wonderful melons...large and sweet.
> >
> > My neighbor who has a large veggie garden said that her okra didn't do 
> > well
> > this year, too.
> >
> > Today, I started digging up crocosmia...have some red and a sort of
golden
> > orange if anyone wants some.
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Date: 9/6/2006 1:05:34 PM
> >> Subject: [CHAT] Labor weekend
> >>
> >> I finally got through all the mail you guys generated. Sounds like
> >> everyone had a pretty good weekend and there was even some rain where
it
> >> was needed.
> >> We labored much over the Labor Day weekend but alas, not much of it was
> >> in the garden. Mostly we are adjusting to the new horse. Thursday we
had
> >> corral fences delivered to extend the two stalls. After looking at the
> >> original installation we decided it didn't take as much space as we'd
> >> expected and we were able to give them more room, so we bought the
> >> extra. So, take down the old, move the horse out of the way, take down
> >> the cross-fence to allow in the delivery truck. All I can say is thank
> >> heaven the delivery guys were willing to install the new fences,
because
> >> they were 24' long instead of 12' and correspondingly more heavy, and
> >> while I'm not weak I'm no match for guys - husband and I would have
> >> spent hours wrestling those things into place and instead it took maybe
> >> 45 minutes.
> >> Since we just gained so much time we then put up the fences for the 50'
> >> round pen. That was only a couple hours too. Of course it's getting hot
> >> by then so we collapsed in the hammock under the tree. But husband
could
> >> not rest...he decided to start the concrete work under our vehicle
gate.
> >> Between the back and the front there are several big gates, and this
one
> >> had a long section of cattle panel - very heavy welded wire - over the
> >> ground to keep the dogs from digging out. We decided that we didn't
want
> >> the horse walking on that and if we dug a trench and filled it with
> >> concrete right under the gate, it would work as a barrier. So off he
> >> goes with his shovel. It's dead of summer of course, this is the
desert,
> >> so the ground was like rock. The shovel was discarded in favor of a
> >> pickaxe. After watching him turn beet red within seconds I figured I'd
> >> better help so there's the two of us, pickaxing away at a 12' long
> >> trench. Then we had to go get the concrete, 25 bags at 60 pounds apiece
> >> which we loaded into the truck. Then we mixed the concrete and filled
> >> the trench, and since he was mixing, I got to move all those bags
again.
> >> And when we were done with THAT, I went for my 3 mile walk with my
> >> friend, who was getting snarky about me giving her all these excuses
for
> >> not walking because I was busy with the horse.
> >> So that was Thursday. If you think that was a lot of work, why yes it
> >> was, thank you for noticing. :-)
> >> I'd also like to know why all that calorie expenditure didn't show up
on
> >> the scale. Life is not fair. But anyway...
> >> The good part is that what we did on Thursday was my husband's entire
> >> to-do list for the weekend. He got a lot more little jobs done over the
> >> next few days so that was helpful. We worked the horse a number of
> >> times, quite educational for all of us. I picked bell peppers and
> >> stuffed them for the freezer, and I made pesto and froze it. I had to
> >> tackle a heck of a lot of grass in the herb bed to get to the basil,
but
> >> the worst of it is out of there. The basil has gone to seed pretty much
> >> but I cut it back and with luck I'll get another few cups of pesto
> >> before it freezes in October. There are few zillion peppers, I have
> >> plans and just need the time to deal with them. Zucchini and cukes
still
> >> producing but a massive attack of aphids has arrived - I sprayed with
> >> light oil, so we'll see if I did any good. Maybe I'll go in there with
> >> the hose and spray real hard in a couple days. I'm getting enough
> >> eggplant to make me happy, there are no tomatoes to speak of, and the
> >> melons are pretty much worthless. I'm not growing honeydew ever again -
> >> despite reading many descriptions I am having terrible luck guessing
> >> when they're ripe, either I get dry and tasteless or fermented melon
> >> bombs. I like cantaloupes better anyway. I'm surprised I am not getting
> >> much okra, I thought that was like zucchini in terms of mass
production,
> >> but there are only a couple pods a day out of maybe six plants. Not
> >> enough water maybe.
> >> I had planned on digging and moving a lot of bearded iris but never got
> >> to it, that needs to be done. The dry garden still has russian sage,
> >> salvia greggii, germander sage and the desert willow blooming. I
haven't
> >> seen the zauschneria blooming yet and I'm kinda curious why not. There
> >> are a few roses and the sedum is making big blossom heads but they are
> >> not open yet. Liriope looks very nice this time of year with its purple
> >> spikes, I should start dividing some of the bigger clumps.
> >> At our fair I talked to a guy from one of the local conservation
> >> districts, he has native California juniper available. I have been
> >> looking for that for my back fence so next month - if I remember - I'll
> >> drive that way and see if I can get one or two. He said they grow
slowly
> >> but I'm hoping with a little extra water I can speed it up. He also
said
> >> that they are pretty hard to germinate which may explain why I never
see
> >> any seedlings around the one in my yard. I am sure having a time
getting
> >> stuff to establish back there. But I have two mesquite planted this
> >> spring that look pretty good, another two saltbush, and even the
> >> manzanita is not looking too bad. The elderberry all croaked, oh well,
> >> and one each of mesquite and saltbush didn't make it. Well...another
ten
> >> or fifteen years I guess before it looks good...then no doubt we'll
> >> decide to move.
> >>
> >> Cyndi
> >>
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