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Re: member


james singer wrote:
David and I used to exchange more than we have recently. But he has--as do the rest of you--my real address.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes but. His address book likely has you as 'Jim Singer' as opposed to
'Island Jim' or 'James Singer'. Not being a spammer by trade, I can only
suppose that 'personal names' such as 'Jim Singer' and email addresses such as
gardenchat@hort.net or islandjim1@verizon.net can be mixed and matched
however the spammer chooses. A spammer in this context may well be an
innocent victim's compromised machine, set up to mail spam.
The strangest part about this episode is that the body of the mail wasn't
what we would ordinarily consider spam, and that the headers do in fact show that
the mail come *from* Gilbert's machine, not David's. It may be that the 'Disarmed' buisiness means that a virus or worm accompanied the mail from Gilbert
appended to a harmless message, and that it was removed by Gilbert's ISP's
mail server.
-jrf
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:28 PM, James R. Fisher wrote:

james singer wrote:

It's a possibility, Bonnie. But I'm not "Jim" anywhere that I know of. Island Jim, yes; James Singer, Yes. But no Jim Singer. Also, Norton and I are reasonably certain the Mac hasn't been usurped.
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I can't figure out what {Disarmed} means; the full headers seem to show it came
into one of the Mallorn machines with that already in the Subject. I'll go
out on a small limb and suggest that either David's or Gilbert's machines
has been compromised. Both the gardenchat address and 'Jim' are likely to
be in David's address book (Jim, do you and David often exchange private
mail ?), as well as that of Gilbert, come to think of it. That sort of points
to David, at first blush. As to X stealing Y's address to send mail to Z,
that makes my head hurt...
-jrf
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:

I'm wondering if someone is spoofing the gardenchat address from your or
David's association. Bill and I just discovered someone is spoofing our
main e-mail address. We had to quit using one of our favorites because of
the same thing. There doesn't seem to be a good defense against someone
using a person's (groups') e-mail address to send things to others. (We got
a delivery failure on something we never sent, or we wouldn't even know
about it.)

Bonnie (SW OH - zone5 )

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of james singer
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:18 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] member

Strange, isn't it. If not a member, wonder how they got access to the
list?... Chris?

On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:

I got it too and had just assumed that he was a new member...a  friend
of yours, Jim, since your name was in the address line.  Sorry.

Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]  On
Behalf Of james singer
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:15 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] member

I received that message, too, and was somewhat perplexed by
it--someone seems to have associated me with the hort.net CHAT
address.  :( I don't recognize any of the names [or addressed] in  that
address string except what seems to be mine.

Besides that, the message was one of those trite Hallmark card  jokes.

On Sep 28, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Kitty wrote:

Does anyone know who Wayne-Gilbert, AZ (azwhall@att.net
<azwhall@att.net>) is? I received a [CHAT] message from this  person.
Oddly it wasn't addressed to me or to chat but it was sent to :  "Tony
Orpi" <tbfire255@juno.com>; "Jim Singer" <gardenchat@hort.net>;
"Laura M Gabriel" <lmgabriel@charter.net>; "Mike Hall"
<mikeh@felixconstruction.com>; "Michael Hall" <mhall18@cox.net>;  "Jim
Hackiewicz" <jjhack@earthlink.net>; "Robert Carran"
<anglady_c2000@msn.com>

Any ideas?  Does my computer have some sort of problem?

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
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Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.0 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]

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Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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Jim Fisher
Vienna, Virginia USA
38.9 N 77.2 W
USDA Zone 7
Max. 100 F [38 C], Min. 10 F [-12 C]

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Southwest Florida
27.0 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]

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Vienna, Virginia USA
38.9 N 77.2 W
USDA Zone 7
Max. 100 F [38 C], Min. 10 F [-12 C]

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