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Re: [GWL]: Neem in Canada
Although Neem and Milky Spore have not been approved for use as herbicides and pesticides, they
are available for sale (retailers just cannot recommend their use for these purposes -- where
there's a will, there's a way!) The Trellis Shop at the Civic Garden Centre in Toronto carries
Neem Oil, and Milky Spore is available from The Environmental Factor, an interesting organic lawn
care company that has been successfully applying organic practices to both private and public
lawns in Oshawa, Ontario for a number of years. Here's a link to their website -->
http://www.environmentalfactor.com/html/Organiclawncare.html
Cheers,
Lorraine Flanigan
Freelance Garden Writer
Suite101 Contributing Editor, Gardening in Southern Ontario
http://suite101.com/welcome.cfm/gardening_southern_ontario
Jeff Ball wrote:
> It's really funny that Canada can't approve Neem out of hand. In India,
> neem oil has been used for centuries for two purposes - it has been used to
> control insects and it is used as a tooth paste.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yvonne Cunnington [y*@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:10 PM
> To: Gardenwriters@topica.com
> Subject: Re: [GWL]: Rodale Press
>
> As a Canadian I would love to try Milky Spore or Neem, but I'm frustrated
> that Agriculture Canada has not approved either for use in Canada as yet,
> and thus they are not available to us. I fantasize about smuggling both. ;-)
>
> I believe AgCan is looking at Neem -- they are researching it for use on
> some agricultural crops and have had good results in at least one study I
> read of -- and there is some hope of it being approved. But whether it will
> be approved for garden use is still an open question. I'd love to hear from
> any other Canadians who might have more up-to-date info on this.
> -Yvonne Cunnington, Ancaster, ON
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miranda Smith" <miranda@tagoresmith.com>
> To: <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [GWL]: Rodale Press
>
> > My perspective on this topic is a little bit different. Personally--that
> is,
> > as a private person--I believe that some substances currently outlawed by
> > Organic Certification Regs are preferable to approved substances. A good
> > example is the use of Imidan (outlawed) for plum curculio vs. rotenone
> > (approved). Imidan is far less ecologically damaging than rotenone. But
> > thanks to the restrictive nature of the national law, growers who want to
> be
> > certified sometimes have to make poor choices in favor of the letter,
> rather
> > than the spirit, of the legislation. This is a drag and every organic
> farmer
> > in the country knows it.
> >
> > Consequently, I think there is a real need for published information that
> > details the "certifiable" way to do things as well as alternatives that
> > might or might not be more ecologically sensitive. Jeff is correct--there
> is
> > no such forum at this time. I don't know how large a readership you could
> > find for this kind of information, but I'm guessing that the many readers
> of
> > OG would be very happy to subscribe to such a publication along about now.
> > So if any of you have venture capital looking for a home, you might
> consider
> > such a publication.
> >
> > Incidently, there are "certifiable" ways to deal with Japanese beetles. In
> > Zones 6 and southward, milky spore really does kill the grubs. In Zone 5,
> > milky spore might or might not survive long enough to provide control. In
> > Zones 5 through 3, you can count on beneficial nematodes. For the adult
> > beetles, you can use Neem. It's effective and certifiable. (The politics
> > behind the registration of Neem products are a little dicey though--I
> think
> > that kind of information also needs open discussion in the mainstream
> > press.)
> >
> > Miranda Smith
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Ball" <jeffball@starband.net>
> > > To: <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [GWL]: Rodale Press
> > >
> > >
> > > >
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