Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 55, Issue 20

**C* U* <c*@sbcglobal.net>**

There's the phrase "escaped from gardens" for imported plants such as  
the tawny orange daylilies growing on their own in ditches etc.  
They're originally from China and we still consider them non-natives.
Carolyn Ulrich
On Aug 11, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Larry Maxcy wrote:

>
> Carlo wrote:
>
>> I don't know ANYONE who would include your third or fourth
>> generation, humanly-selected, unconnected to place and time,
>> "improved" plant as a native. That's not unlike considering me,
>> third generation, of diluted and mixed Sicilian blood, never-been-
>> there, a "native" of Sicily. While I might like it to be true, it
>> just ain't so (although I freely claim the heritage).
>
> This leads me to a related question--
>
> No plant has been anywhere "forever." I wouldn't argue that the
> plants we now consider native just sprang up spontaneously. So, when
> does an exotic become a native?
>
> We make it more simple with people. Of course, there are some places
> where a second or third generation descendent of a newcomer is not
> considered a native, "one of us." But that's a different matter.
>
> It has always seemed to me that discussions of "native plants"
> involve theological and sociological as well as botanical aspects.
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