Re: Blogger and Garden Blogs

**"* P* <k*@gmail.com>**

The problem is with bloggers who use the WordPress software (downloaded from
wordpress.*org*) but are not members of the wordpress.*com* hosting service.
If they are not already a member of any service that has adopted the openID
standard, their blog won't be linked to when they comment. That's what this
is all about, Lois, not the ability to comment on a blog, but the ability to
have a link back to your own blog associated with that comment. Links are
the coin of the internet realm, and a link to one's blog on a comment one
has made at someone else's blog is a common way to get new visitors to one's
blog--hopefully repeat visitors.

OpenID is a very new standard, and many people are not familiar with it yet.
I just went to their directory, and I confess I'm having a hard time
figuring out an easy way to determine if I already have an OpenID by virtue
of another site I am already registered with. And then you need to delegate
it if it doesn't already link to your blog. In the comments of Doug's blog
post that he referenced above, someone refers to the same announcement from
Blogger that you do. Doug doesn't sound like he approves of OpenID. I
haven't made up my mind, but it does seem that having one registration for a
whole bunch of sites, while convenient, brings up the same security risks as
having one login for all your banking and credit card accounts. If that's
considered a bad idea, why is it a good idea for OpenID?

Kathy

On Dec 18, 2007 7:28 AM, <loisdan@juno.com> wrote:

> Hi Everybody ,
>
> You all had me confused with the postings on this matter, partly because
> I don't understand very well what you are talking about, but also because
> my Blogger Buzz was explaining how you CAN do exactly what you are
> talking about. Perhaps somebody who actually understands this could go
> onto Blogger Buzz and read the December 13th entry. There is some apology
> to WordPress users for interim problems at the end, so maybe that's what
> was going on.
>
> In any event, Blogger account holders control who can comment through our
> "Settings" setting, and so can also restrict comments to blog "members"
> only, registered users only, Google account holders only, or allow anyone
> to comment.
>
> Regards,
> Lois J. de Vries
> Visit http://loisdevries.blogspot.com
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:55:43 -0500 "Kathy Purdy" <kopurdy@gmail.com>
> writes:
> > Doug,
> > It did cause a minor tempest. Pam Penick's blog Digging addressed it
> > in this
> > post with links to other bloggers' posts:
> > http://www.penick.net/digging/?p=391
> > and then there are more responses in the comments.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 9:07 AM, Doug Green <dgreen@kos.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I just posted a note on my blog about Blogger that some of you
> > might wnat
> > > to
> > > consider.  IMO... In short, Blogger has implemented a new policy
> > of making
> > > all commenters on your blog have either a Blogger account or
> > "register"
> > > with
> > > a non-linking account in order to make a comment.
> > >
> > > In the short run, this isn't likely too big a problem as the
> > Blogger
> > > network
> > > is fairly large and the numbers most garden bloggers are talking
> > about
> > > with
> > > subscribers are still pretty low.
> > >
> > > In the long run however, professional garden writers may want to
> > ensure
> > > they're in a system where all visitors can comment equally.  Have
> > your own
> > > self-hosted blog.
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > The deal is fairly simple.  Blogging is about networking and
> > creating
> > > relationships between blogs and writers.   If I, as a non-Blogger
> > person
> > > can't include my blog-link in a comment on your site, then you and
> > the
> > > other
> > > readers don't know who I am and can't include me in the
> > conversation by
> > > visiting my blog or back-linking through.  I ran into this on the
> > weekend
> > > where I wanted to make a comment on a Blogger garden site but
> > couldn't
> > > because I didn't have a Blogger account and I wasn't all the keen
> > on yet
> > > another registration for a non-linking identity.
> > >
> > > Blogger has created a wall around it's blogs and writers and while
> > it may
> > > not have been the intent, effectively created a long-term policy
> > of not
> > > allowing any other blogger outside the network to interact.  A
> > closed door
> > > policy reminiscent of AOL back "in the day."   You won't see the
> > effect of
> > > this in the short term but in the long term, I suspect that
> > Blogger blogs
> > > will increasingly talk to themselves.
> > >
> > > A useful strategy might be to have two blogs - one inside the
> > system and
> > > one
> > > outside the system.
> > >
> > > But that's too much work for me. :-)
> > >
> > > So that's a heads-up if you're using Blogger.  You'll see inbound
> > comments
> > > from other Blogger readers but likely decreasing numbers of
> > comments from
> > > non-Bloggers over the next few years.
> > >
> > > I haven't seen this issue raised in garden blogs even though it
> > has been a
> > > bit of a firestorm on other blog areas I follow.  My apologies if
> > I've
> > > missed it in my travelling and moving.
> > >
> > >
> > > On a lighter note - a Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday Season to
> > all
> > > fellow
> > > garden writers.  May the simple gifts of the season be yours this
> > year.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Green
> > > Ist in Online Gardening Publishing
> > > Homesite http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com
> > > Blog http://www.douggreensgarden.com
> > >
> > >
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