Re: question about non-native plants and pollinators

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Hi Everyone,

Marcia Tate's article in GWA's April 2015  Q&T offers a good summary of the
research being done on this topic at Mt. Cuba (Doug Tallamy and Deborah
Delaney) and University of Vermont (Annie White), and others, as well as
links to a variety of reference materials.

Cordially,

Lois
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From: gardenwriters [g*@lists.ibiblio.org] On
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Subject: Re: [GWL] question about non-native plants and pollinators

Thanks. Lindtner's research sounds interesting.  The Chicago Botanic Garden
states that there are 500 bees native to Illinois, and I certainly notice
that I have different types of bees flitting about.

Carolyn

On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Helen Yoest wrote:

> All too often we forget the European Honey bee isn't native, and may have
a preference to those plants native to them.

> 

> Some of the best research I've read came out of Longwood by Peter
lindtner. I'm studying it in many ways, and one of those ways, will be to
evaluate the highest nectar and pollen counts as it relates native versus
introduced. 

> 

> Helen Yoest

> 

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> 

>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Denise < <e*@aol.com>
edibleflowers1@aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> There is no research so far that says natives are more   Nutritious  than
non natives. There are certain natives that are necessary for pollinators to
feed

>> on for reproduction and other reasons. Some tight double flowered plants
can be problematic. I heard Doug Tallamy say that at a talk at CENTS a
couple of years ago.

>> 

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> 

>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Colorado Gardener <
<c*@gmail.com> cogardener@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> No harm in growing non-natives, esp. water-wise plants & those known 

>>> to be neonic-free. The concept we try to promote is to plant more 

>>> natives. I suggest you watch some of Doug Tallemy's videos of his 

>>> talks on YouTube - he's incredibly knowledgeable and eloquent on the 

>>> topic of Natives vs non-natives. His research shows - among other 

>>> things - that natives support a much bigger number of pollinator 

>>> species than do non-natives. His credentials should be listed too or are
easily available online.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> This isn't a link but what to search for on You Tube Doug Tallamy's 

>>> Plant Natives 2015 presentation.

>>> 

>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Carolyn Ulrich 

>>> < <c*@gmail.com> cultivated13@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>> 

>>>> I'm well aware of the importance of growing native plants in order 

>>>> to benefit pollinating birds and insects. But I also see in my 

>>>> garden that certain non-natives attract bees and other insects.  

>>>> Nepeta, calamintha and Allium 'Spring Beauty' attract bees in 

>>>> droves, and the nepeta is particuarly valuable, it seems to me, 

>>>> because it gives the bees something to eat in May when Joe Pye 

>>>> weed, cultiver's root, echinacea, milkweeds, anise hyssop and 

>>>> ironweed are still weeks away from blooming.  I have Penstemon 

>>>> digitalis, which the bees like in May, but they also like nepeta at
that time, and it seems to me that they need the nepeta.

>>>> 

>>>> Should I not grow crocus? At the end of March, when the snow crocus 

>>>> open, I always see some bees hovering above them. If I didn't have 

>>>> the crocus, what would these bees be able to feed on?

>>>> 

>>>> So is there any "harm" in growing these non-natives?  Does the 

>>>> pollen from these and other non-natives negatively affect the ecosystem
in some way?

>>>> I'd like to contact someone who can speak authoritatively on this 

>>>> topic and not polemically.

>>>> 

>>>> Carolyn Ulrich

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