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Re: gardenwriters digest, Vol 1 #163 - 6 msgs
To Conrad Richter:
I am a professional editor/proofreader and have worked closely with a
Spanish translator in the recent past who is excellent. If you would like me
to contact her, let me know.
Karyn Martin
ksmartbl@flash.net
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Subject: gardenwriters digest, Vol 1 #163 - 6 msgs
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> 1. Re: Translators for Gardening and Herbal Books (Sandie Parrott)
> 2. we need more writers? (Douglas Green)
> 3. Re: My solution to image theft (Graham Rice)
> 4. Google images -- good? bad? (Nan Sterman)
> 5. Re: Google images -- good? bad? (fran gustman)
> 6. Re: My solution to image theft (Christopher P. Lindsey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 16:58:49 -0400
> From: Sandie Parrott <rsbirdy@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Translators for Gardening and Herbal Books
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
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> I took a Spanish class from a teacher that translates books, business
> and legal information. I don't know if she has a horticultural
> background, but she might have an idea of what the charges could be.
> I'm sure most of it is based on time. If you are interested in
> hooking up with her, contact me off list.
>
> Sandie Parrott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Conrad Richter" <conrad@richters.com>
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 7:05 PM
> Subject: [GWL] Translators for Gardening and Herbal Books
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Richters is thinking about publishing a book that was originally
> > published in Spanish. We are seeking a translator but being
> relatively
> > new to the business of publishing books, we have no idea what to
> expect
> > to pay for the translation or where to find experienced translators
> who
> > can handle books with a herbal theme. Any suggestions from list
> members
> > would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Conrad Richter
> >
> > RICHTERS HERBS --- RICHTERS HERBS --- RICHTERS HERBS --- RICHTERS
> HERBS
> > ------- 357 Highway 47, Goodwood, Ontario, L0C 1A0,
> Canada --------
> > Tel +1-905-640-6677 --- Fax +1-905-640-6641 ---
> http://www.richters.com
> > HERB PLANTS, SEEDS, BOOKS & MORE! -- FREE CATALOG:
> catalog@richters.com
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 08:11:59 -0400
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Douglas Green <dgreen@simplegiftsfarm.com>
> Subject: [GWL] we need more writers?
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> FYI - the Writenews announced this little gem this morning...
>
> - Eighty-one percent of Americans feel they should write a book,
> according to a survey of 1,006 adult Americans commissioned
> by Jenkins Group, Inc. ( http://www.bookpublishing.com ), a
> Michigan publishing services firm, which sponsors the annual
> Independent Publisher Book Awards and issues the monthly
> online magazine Independent Publisher.
>
> I *should* go and write a few more myself. :-)
>
> Doug
>
> Douglas Green,
> Award of Excellence winner - "Gardening Wisdom"
> Freelance writer taking assignments and writing your story
> http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com/clips/clipmaster.htm
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:25:41 -0400
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Graham Rice <garden@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] My solution to image theft
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> I've just noticed this information on preventing robots/spiders from
> the Google Image Search and other search engines indexing the images
> on your site. It comes from the bulletin of the American Society of
> Media Photographers.
>
> Apparently, you can place a very specific text file in your site's
> root directory that tells the spiders not to look at certain folders.
> You can find all the details at
> http://www.asmp.org/newsandevents/news/newslines.html (scroll down to
> the end).
>
> Of course, those photographers selling mainly in print and with only
> low res images on their site might think the Google Image Search is a
> neat way of bringing traffic to the site. Which is my view, so I've
> not tried it.
>
> Graham Rice
>
> http://GardenPhotos.com
>
>
>
> >In light of our thread earlier this week and all of the personal email
> >that I received about image theft, I thought I'd share my solution with
> >you.
> >
> >There's no way to totally prevent image theft, but we can sure make it
> >harder for people.
> >
> >With that in mind, hort.net now uses 'picsaw puzzles' (as a friend of
> >mine called it). The images are split up into as many 100x100 pixel
> >blocks as are necessary, are assigned seemingly nonsensical filenames,
> >and then have their positions stored in a database.
> >
> >When an image is requested, a routine goes through and rebuilds the
> >image on the browser, but if anyone tries to download it they'll only
> >get a subpart.
> >
> >Sure, they can download all of the parts and put them together, but
> >that's incredibly tedious. And there's nothing that can be done about
> >screen captures, either. But this prevents the kind of theft that
> >browsers like Internet Explorer have encouraged of late.
> >
> >Here's an example page:
> >
> > http://www.hort.net/gallery/view/sol/calmbye
> >
> >Regarding the image names, they're obfuscated to prevent the automatic
> >regeneration of images by remote scripts and the like. It would be
> >trivial to write a program that trawls through a Web site and
> >rebuilds these pictures if they have names like a1, a2, a3. With
> >these names it requires a visual study (or access to the database) to
> >recombine them properly.
> >
> >The long line of gibberish in the filename is also useful. It's actually
> >a checksum of the image subpart. This serves two purposes:
> >
> > . I can tell if an image ever becomes corrupted on my own site
because
> > the checksum won't match
> >
> > . I can prove that someone stole an image by breaking it up along the
> > same boundaries as my copies. Running a checksum on the pieces
> > that I break up will match my checksum exactly, unless the image
> > has been modified
> >
> >All 3000+ images at hort.net have been converted over to this scheme
> >now.
> >
> >Anyhow, feel free to contact me *personally* if you have any questions
> >or comments. Otherwise we'll have to start yet another list: gardening
> >computer nerds or somesuch. :)
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >P.S. The next step is to make the pieces different sizes.
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:36:06 -0700
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com>
> Subject: [GWL] Google images -- good? bad?
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> I keep reading the terrible comments about google's image search
> function and I gotta say, I really appreciate the search engine
> especially because it allows me to see images. I would never think
> of using it to steal an image but as a resource, it is invaluable.
> In fact, google images searches have led me to many a site I would
> otherwise not have found. As you look for ways to protect your
> images, I suggest you find a way other than keeping it from google as
> you will be eliminating many people whom you are probably trying to
> attract.
>
> Nan
>
> Did I just open another can of worms?
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> Message: 5
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:18:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Google images -- good? bad?
> From: fran gustman <fgustman@juno.com>
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:36:06 -0700 Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com>
> writes:
> As you look for ways to protect your
> > images, I suggest you find a way other than keeping it from google
> > as
> > you will be eliminating many people whom you are probably trying to
> >
> > attract.
>
> I agree. Google Images is a wonderful resource both for educating
> yourself and for showing to a client.
>
> Fran
>
> Fran Gustman, Editor
> HortResources Newsletter
> Boston, MA
> fgustman@juno.com
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:40:53 -0500
> From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <topica.com@spamfodder.com>
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [GWL] My solution to image theft
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> > I've just noticed this information on preventing robots/spiders from
> > the Google Image Search and other search engines indexing the images
> > on your site. It comes from the bulletin of the American Society of
> > Media Photographers.
> >
> > Apparently, you can place a very specific text file in your site's
> > root directory that tells the spiders not to look at certain folders.
> > You can find all the details at
> > http://www.asmp.org/newsandevents/news/newslines.html (scroll down to
> > the end).
>
> The page at
>
> http://images.google.com/remove.html#images
>
> also offers some other tips. For example, the ASMP instructions will
block
> all search engines. But if you only want to block Google images, your
> robots.txt file could read
>
> User-agent: Googlebot-Image
> Disallow: /
>
> Personally, I'm not too concerned. Under the new scheme (with the split
> up images on hort.net) any pics that images.google.com displays will
> just be one small portion of the original photo. If that's not good
> enough for folks, well, too bad. :)
>
> Chris
>
>
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