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Re: gardenwriters digest, Vol 1 #184 - 6 msgs
About the organic gardening topic: I grow herbs organically in my huge
backyard. I sent off to the state of Texas to get their paperwork for
applying to be able to use the organically grown label. One of the
requirements is that you have to grow your organic whatever at least 25'
from any other property that is not also certifiably organic. That shoots me
right out of the water because the property next to me has passed ownership
probably five or six times just since I moved here seven years ago. The
owners do nothing but mow (if I'm lucky!) and certainly do not apply any
type of chemicals to the overgrown mess they call a backyard, yet I can't
possibly get them to agree to also be organically certified. But I can't use
the label. I guess one has to live on acreage to even be able to apply. Too
bad for us small-timers just trying to make some extra bucks with quality
edibles.
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> 3. Peter McGrath (Lon J. Rombough)
> 4. Re: Unhappy small farmer (KTCopsey@aol.com)
> 5. Shameless self promotion time (Nan Sterman)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Doreen Howard" <doreenh@ticon.net>
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Unhappy small farmer
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:21:51 -0500
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> Miranda Smith wrote:
>
> > I don't know any farmers who ARE happy about the new
> > regs, and it's not just the paperwork. As I've written
> > about on the sister list, I am now forbidden to use
> > compost tea.
>
> Compost tea is forbidden under the act? Am I reading you correctly? I
> thought the big commercial ventures that sell compost tea equipment such
as
> Soil Soup were propelled by the Organic Act. Am I wrong?
> Doreen Howard
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "bbmackey" <bbmackey@prodigy.net>
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] New organic labeling scheme
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:35:06 -0400
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> This is copied from the press release attached by Lee Reich. It leaves =
> me wondering whether garden writers now have to worry about how they =
> write or say "organic." -- Betty Mackey
>
>
>
> "On October 21, the USDA National Organic Program (NOP) rules take =
> effect. We will have one standardized definition of Organic across the =
> country joined together with a more uniform certification process that =
> requires a paper trail of just what goes on in the field -all the way =
> from seed ordering to point of sale. In the name of labeling =
> consistency, the new rule notably forbids Organic farmers that refuse =
> the government-directed certification program from using the term =
> "Organic" even to verbally describe their produce or growing methods -at =
> risk of a $10,000 fine per violation."
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: LEE REICH=20
>
>
> You may be interested to know that not all farmers are happy with the =
> USDA labelling scheme. Small farmers seem unduly burdened with paperwork =
> and filing costs. NPR did something on this topic today (www.npr.org). =
> Part of the small farmer's reaction to this is in a new organic =
> certification program, "Naturally Grown" (www.naturallygrown.org). A =
> press release that I received on this is attached.=20
> Lee Reich, PhD=20
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> in the=20
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> farmers=20
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> something on=20
> this topic today (<A href=3D"http://www.npr.org">www.npr.org</A>). =
> Part of the=20
> small farmer's reaction to this is in a new organic certification =
> program,=20
> "Naturally Grown" (<A=20
> href=3D"http://www.naturallygrown.org">www.naturallygrown.org</A>). A =
> press=20
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:01:12 -0700
> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
> To: GWL <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [GWL] Peter McGrath
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> Does anyone know about Peter McGrath? His address keeps bouncing e-mail
and
> the message that comes back indicates his mailbox is overloaded. That
> suggests he isn't checking his e-mail at all. Please reply offlist.
> -Lon Rombough
>
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> Message: 4
> From: KTCopsey@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:24:11 EDT
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Unhappy small farmer
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
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> I have to defend the organic labelling here. Yes, many small farmers were
> acting quasii organically without certification, but those of us who took
the
> trouble to get certified over the last few years have paid a small fortune
to
> do so and be beaten out at the market place by people who fudge the rules.
> Yes, there is a paper trail - inputs, seed sources, and rotation of crops
> etc. - you really have to work at the idea and be organized (my major
> failing). What big business has failed to come to terms with, is that
people
> who traditionally have grown organically have a simliar thinking regarding
> sustainable farming - its more than a posh label that gets bigger bucks
> (which it doesn't any longer).
>
> ********************
>
> Katy : Betony Herbs, Indiana
> Garden Writer
> Living just one cornfield from civilization.
>
> ********************
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2>I have to
defend the organic labelling here. Yes, many small farmers were acting
quasii organically without certification, but those of us who took the
trouble to get certified over the last few years have paid a small fortune
to do so and be beaten out at the market place by people who fudge the
rules. Yes, there is a paper trail - inputs, seed sources, and
rotation of crops etc. - you really have to work at the idea and be
organized (my major failing). What big business has failed to come to
terms with, is that people who traditionally have grown organically have a
simliar thinking regarding sustainable farming - its more than a posh label
that gets bigger bucks (which it doesn't any longer).<BR>
> <BR>
> ********************<BR>
> <BR>
> <I>Katy : Betony Herbs, Indiana<BR>
> Garden Writer<BR>
> Living just one cornfield from civilization.<BR>
> <BR>
> ********************</I></FONT></HTML>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:07:47 -0700
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com>
> Subject: [GWL] Shameless self promotion time
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
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> Starting Wednesday night, October 23rd, I'll be appearing as guest
> expert on a TV series called Weekend Landscaping. The show airs on
> the Do It Yourself Network (also known as DIYNet). I am on 7 of the
> 13 episodes which run Wednesday nights at 5 pm and 8 pm Pacific time,
> 8 pm and 11 pm Eastern time.
> Air dates are
> October 23rd
> Nov 20
> Nov 27
> December 4
> December 11
> December 18
> December 25
>
> As you might guess, the show demonstrates landscape projects that can
> be done in a weekend, more or less.
>
> DIYNet is a sister station to HGTV and the Food Channel. As I
> understand it, DIYNet is offered by Time Warner cable along with
> several other cable providers. Ironically, Cox which is my cable
> provider, does not offer it!
>
> So watch and let me know what you think!
>
> Nan
>
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> Nan Sterman Plant Soup (TM)
>
> 205 Cole Ranch Road
> Encinitas, CA 92024 760.634.2902 (voice)
> NSterman@PlantSoup.Com 760.634.2957 (fax)
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> <div>Starting Wednesday night, October 23rd, I'll be appearing as
> guest expert on a TV series called Weekend Landscaping. The show
> airs on the Do It Yourself Network (also known as DIYNet). I am
> on 7 of the 13 episodes which run Wednesday nights at 5 pm and 8 pm
> Pacific time, 8 pm and 11 pm Eastern time.</div>
> <div>Air dates are</div>
> <ul>
> <li>October 23rd
> <li>Nov 20
> <li>Nov 27
> <li>December 4
> <li>December 11
> <li>December 18
> <li>December 25</ul>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>As you might guess, the show demonstrates landscape projects that
> can be done in a weekend, more or less.</div>
> <div> </div>
> <div>DIYNet is a sister station to HGTV and the Food Channel. As
> I understand it, DIYNet is offered by Time Warner cable along with
> several other cable providers. Ironically, Cox which is my cable
> provider, does not offer it!</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>So watch and let me know what you think!</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div>Nan</div>
> <div> </div>
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> Sterman<x-tab>
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> <div><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000">205 Cole Ranch
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> <div><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000">Encinitas, CA
> 92024<x-tab>
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> <div><font face="Helvetica"
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:32:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Shameless self promotion time
> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
>
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> I think it's good someone else finally did a little self-promoting on the
> GWL. Come on you shrinking violets, unfold. How are the rest of us going
> to know about what you are doing, including good stuff WE could write
about?
> -Lon Rombough
>
> From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com>
> Reply-To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:07:47 -0700
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [GWL] Shameless self promotion time
>
>
> Starting Wednesday night, October 23rd, I'll be appearing as guest expert
on
> a TV series called Weekend Landscaping. The show airs on the Do It
Yourself
> Network (also known as DIYNet). I am on 7 of the 13 episodes which run
> Wednesday nights at 5 pm and 8 pm Pacific time, 8 pm and 11 pm Eastern
time.
> Air dates are
> October 23rd
> Nov 20
> Nov 27
> December 4
> December 11
> December 18
> December 25
>
> As you might guess, the show demonstrates landscape projects that can be
> done in a weekend, more or less.
>
> DIYNet is a sister station to HGTV and the Food Channel. As I understand
> it, DIYNet is offered by Time Warner cable along with several other cable
> providers. Ironically, Cox which is my cable provider, does not offer it!
>
> So watch and let me know what you think!
>
> Nan
>
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> Nan Sterman Plant Soup (TM)
> 205 Cole Ranch Road
> Encinitas, CA 92024 760.634.2902 (voice)
> NSterman@PlantSoup.Com 760.634.2957 (fax)
>
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> I think it's good someone else finally did a little self-promoting on the
G=
> WL. Come on you shrinking violets, unfold. How are the rest of
u=
> s going to know about what you are doing, including good stuff WE could
writ=
> e about?<BR>
> -Lon Rombough<BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <B>From: </B>Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com><BR>
> <B>Reply-To: </B>gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<BR>
> <B>Date: </B>Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:07:47 -0700<BR>
> <B>To: </B>gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<BR>
> <B>Subject: </B>[GWL] Shameless self promotion time<BR>
> <BR>
> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE>Starting Wednesday night, October 23rd, I'll be appearing as
gu=
> est expert on a TV series called Weekend Landscaping. The show airs
on=
> the Do It Yourself Network (also known as DIYNet). I am on 7 of the
1=
> 3 episodes which run Wednesday nights at 5 pm and 8 pm Pacific time, 8 pm
an=
> d 11 pm Eastern time.<BR>
> Air dates are<BR>
> <UL><LI>October 23rd=20
> <LI>Nov 20=20
> <LI>Nov 27=20
> <LI>December 4=20
> <LI>December 11=20
> <LI>December 18=20
> <LI>December 25<BR>
> </UL><BR>
> As you might guess, the show demonstrates landscape projects that can be
do=
> ne in a weekend, more or less.<BR>
> <BR>
> DIYNet is a sister station to HGTV and the Food Channel. As I
underst=
> and it, DIYNet is offered by Time Warner cable along with several other
cabl=
> e providers. Ironically, Cox which is my cable provider, does not
offe=
> r it!<BR>
> <BR>
> So watch and let me know what you think!<BR>
> <BR>
> Nan<BR>
> <BR>
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