Ben Z's Article on White Flowers
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- Subject: Ben Z's Article on White Flowers
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- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:33:01 EST
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| I must first start by saying that I am on digest mode and have not yet received Ben's most recent message which, I presume from Andrew's message was sent today to one of the groups. Therefore, I am responding primarily to what I have been able to discern from Andrew's message without benefit of having read Ben's most recent piece. It is true that Ben submitted an article that, if in perfect form, could have been published 3 issues ago. However, every article Ben has submitted has taken substantial time, 3 to 4 iterations to get the grammar correct and I will say, unequivocally more time than any other author's submissions. This has not stopped us from putting in many hours of review and editing to publish that which has been published thus far. In the past Warren Pollock, Bob Olson, CH Falstad, Kevin Vaughn, Lois Girton and Rich Grazzini have spent 3 times more on any of Ben's articles in editing simple grammar so that the average American person could understand them. As was noted three Journals ago, due to concern expressed by several members over the "level and quality" of the science in the Journal we placed more emphasis on initial review by the Science editor and peer review by others chosen by the science editor. Rick Grazzini, until yesterday our science editor, expressed concern over the substance of Ben's most recent article immediately upon its submission. During this same period Rick has had to have surgery and shortly following that his lab director became severely ill requiring Rick to take over double duties in his everyday work. In fact, Rick just yesterday submitted his resignation as science editor due to his having taken over the responsibilities of running his lab operations. In short, this is a volunteer operation, no one on the Journal staff is paid for the numerous hours we spend to make the Journal what it is. We (Bob Solberg in his role as V.P. for the genus hosta, myself as editor of the Journal, et.al.) are looking for a new science editor. Once she or he is found we will have them review Ben's article on an expedited basis. This does not mean it will be published but that we will have restarted the process of getting questions to Ben so that he can resolve any problems that there may be. Regarding some of the other items in Andrew's e-mail. If I read them correctly, Andrew did a better job of discussing the never ending, losing proposition of trying to guess what balance of articles the group wants. But I can tell you that if the number of Journal pages given to "pure science" exceeds, or nears, 25 percent my phone has burned with complaints. This is a bit self-serving, (maybe better yet "sour grapes") but I will say it anyway: Very few people (and clearly far, far fewer than have complained) have ever called saying thank you for the Journal, or good job, we really liked the last issue. Working in Washington where the environment is geared to "what did you do for me last" I expected this when I took the job. What I didn't expect was that no matter what you do people never hesitate to B_T_H at the editor when it doesn't come out their way. I am sad that Ben has had to complain to the group but so be it. He has been told several times that his article was not rejected but was under review. Rick couldn't help his situation with his health and work. But that doesn't mean we should simply ignore concerns and publish something with which our science editor has had reservations. Maybe I am glad that this is my next to last issue as editor! Kevin P. Walek |
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